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Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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Go check out STUN and ICE. The best article I've found about NAT traversal is this article from Tailscale: https://tailscale.com/blog/how-nat-traversal-works

https://sendfiles.dev/

is there a filesize limit for this?

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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Please don't suggest more laws like this. If you don't like AWS pricing, use something else. That's the only real way to develop alternatives.

You disliked my idle thought so much that you needed to reply twice? :) The various factors causing strong lock-in effects, their dominance, and the insanely high pricing of moving data out of AWS - I wouldn't be surprised if they got their antitrust moment within a few years.

Sorry. It wasn't personal. I just thought you deserved more than my initial terse response and some explanation of what bothered me: Layers of stupid laws on top of stupid laws that impede rational behavior instead of encouraging it.

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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> move to a slower-but-flat-rate provider As I'm sure you're aware: https://www.scaleway.com/en/stardust-instances/ "up to 100Mbps" for $4/month

32.4 TB for $4, or approximately 700 times cheaper than AWS. Neat.

It's unlikely they would let you run it full tilt the entire month. I'm not aware of any VPS providers that have a true unlimited data plan. Would love to be proven wrong.

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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I wasn't yet planning for it, but what the heck. https://zynk.it is a new project I've been working on together with a small team aimed at delivering a truly easy, fast, efficient, unlimited, privacy-respecting and pain free file-sharing experience. It’s peer-to-peer, E2EE and avoids centralized storage, aligning with the ethos of control and transparency we often discuss here. It allows users to send and receive any…

It's login/email walled. If you do want people to try it, the try button shouldn't immediately greet you with a popup to provide your full name and email address. I stopped at that point.

Point well taken. It was a bit too rushed and obviously not ready yet. I'll post about it once we finalize the site and make the whole value proposition clearer.

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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I wasn't yet planning for it, but what the heck. https://zynk.it is a new project I've been working on together with a small team aimed at delivering a truly easy, fast, efficient, unlimited, privacy-respecting and pain free file-sharing experience. It’s peer-to-peer, E2EE and avoids centralized storage, aligning with the ethos of control and transparency we often discuss here. It allows users to send and receive any…

hrmph... Form no work on FF. Form only Works on chrome - but just gives me signup: https://i.imgur.com/ePcBVBE.png Page has zero meat to the info... No screenshots, all cartoons. No talk of price/model/package/install/ etc... No confirmation email with info... Nice blurb - but needs work.

You are right, it was rushed and we'll do better once ready. Stay tuned!

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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That makes sense, and their reasoning looks sound. Here's hoping the file read/write parts get broken apart from the rest. Thanks for the link.

It makes me uninterested in Firefox. I want webapps to be able to talk to files, but Mozilla thinks it's too dangerous. Even though we already have APIs to talk to the local filesystem, & the main difference is this one isnt hideously slow. This issue is one of those that when people are screaming, why are folks using chrome, why haven't we all switched to Firefox I point to and say, because I want a good web, I want…

If it doesn't do what you want, it's fair not to like it.

Just to offer a different perspective, though: I don't consider a lot of the things that Chrome does (bittorrent functionality in this case) to be part of "a good web", or really part of the web at all. I don't need my browser to be an operating system. I can use other apps to do other things.

It's much more important to me to avoid another Internet Explorer-like monoculture, and to have a browser that's relatively respectful of privacy.

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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I wasn't yet planning for it, but what the heck. https://zynk.it is a new project I've been working on together with a small team aimed at delivering a truly easy, fast, efficient, unlimited, privacy-respecting and pain free file-sharing experience. It’s peer-to-peer, E2EE and avoids centralized storage, aligning with the ethos of control and transparency we often discuss here. It allows users to send and receive any…

I'm assuming it won't be open-source? I don't really see why I would use a propietary/non FOSS version of this (magic wormhole). The great thing about magic wormhole is that the protocol is open, and anyone could implement it for themselve. For example there is the reference implementation in python, then there are implementations golang, rust and haskell. Flutter bindings so you can use it in flutter. Multiple GUI i…

Hey.

We are not planning to open source it, but who knows what the future might bring.

I too love and appreciate open protocols and tools, heck, I also tend to gravitate towards that by default as well, but when something better comes up that's not open source and I can use it better/easier, I do.

We'll release a CLI for Windows, macOS and Linux which will easy to use and flexible/scriptable so you could use that to hack together anything you need.

You definitely are a power user. While I don't disagree on the P2P/privacy overlap with open source I do think the world has yet to have the final say about data transfer. Yes, literally countless tools and methods of moving data exist out there, but they aren't universal (AirDrop/Quickshare don't work between all platforms), they pretty much always have both random limits, and limitations, and in most cases aren't really efficient nor pain free -- we're trying to do better, hope we make it! :)

Stay tuned and if you or anyone else would like to give it a try in the mean time drop me a line, m zynk.it

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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Slightly off-topic but this explainer article on how TailScale traverses NATs/firewalls is interesting. Tailscale fools both endpoints into believing they are initiating the same network connection simultaneously enabling direct connection between 2 endpoints that would otherwise be impossible.

https://tailscale.com/blog/how-nat-traversal-works

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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I'm suffering from fatigue from all the political commercials in which every single Democrat apparently single-handedly reduced the price of insulin. As if government-mandated pricing were a good thing. If something is overpriced, somebody should jump in and take advantage of a business opportunity. If nobody is jumping in, perhaps the item is not overpriced. Or perhaps there is some systemic issue preventing willing…

> If something is overpriced, somebody should jump in and take advantage of a business opportunity insulin is off patent. anyone can in theory manufacture it, but the ROI is just not worth it even at the current prices. Manufacturing it is not easy, there are humongous amounts of regulations, you will probably need to do a couple of clinical trials too... so you end up with an oligopoly that are incumbents that nobod…

interesting. so the solution is to pile on more regulation yes? if a little is garbage and destroys the system then more must be better right?

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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20MB/sec is 160Mbps, so wormhole wasn't that far off the 1Gbps. Sure not maxing out but within a factor of 6.

^ found the astronomer

I (Electrical + Software Engineer) once worked for a physicist who believed that anything less than an order of magnitude was merely an engineering problem. He was usually correct.
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