> Michael Braun, the former chief of operations for the D.E.A., told me a story about the construction of a high-tech fence along a stretch of border in Arizona. > “They erect this fence,” he said, “only to go out there a few days later and discover that these guys have a catapult, and they’re flinging hundred-pound bales of marijuana over to the other side.” He paused and looked at me for a second. “A catapult,” he…
How a Mexican Drug Cartel Makes Its Billions
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let me quote [1] "An estimated 90% of cocaine entering the United States transits Mexico." The key word here is "transits". Every other country in Central America, and some in northern South America are part of that "transit" too. Mexican just happens, to its bad luck, to be next to the biggest consumer. Nobody is arguing to have cocaine accesible by kids at the grocery store. The argument is to legalize it to regula…
What will happen to consumers when prices will be so low, so no body will want to sell drugs, because they are no longer profitable?
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#183The only way to stop these large criminal enterprises is to legalize the stuff. Just like alcohol prohibition created some of the most notorious American criminals, South American drug prohibitions produce powerful criminals down there. There isn't any large crime related to South American cocoa or coffee imports. Legalize it and then spend money and make laws regulating consumption, it would greatly reduce the miser…
The problem isn't gangs; it's gang violence. Making their crimes less stringently punished (reducing the paranoia within their ranks) as well as doing more to restrict the flow of arms from the United States (a better use of funds than incarcerating college potheads) seems a more sensible experiment to try before full legalisation. Consider the negative externalities of cocaine use (much higher than marijuana's); the…
The streets became a better place, no more criminals in the corners. No more shots and dead bodies in the communities. The kids were playing again in the streets. And the cops wouldn't have to arrest minors selling drugs, they were able to focus in the big fishes, the head of the operation. The problem is, after some time, the town hall and the police chief started to not believe in the crime rates the captain was giving to them. They were TOO DAMN LOW. They tough he was manipulating, faking or someway, not giving the actual rates. But they were true, he just couldn't say that he legalized the drugs. After some time, he had to tall, and of course he was fired.
I think the series made a great simulation of what it will happen that we had in our city an area were drugs selling were legal. Everyone in HN should watch the show.
PS. I'm sorry for typos and bad grammmar. Not native speaker. I'll get better.
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#184I'd be interested in knowing how they were able to buy Boeing 747s. Those are huge transactions, you can't simply buy planes with cash. I would assume that it would be through shell companies, but wouldn't (or shouldn't) Boeing be careful about who their customers are?
Having a 747 isn't that much of an accomplishment when you consider that the Google guys have 7 planes and their own NASA airport.
Re: How a Mexican Drug Cartel Makes Its Billions
#185I'd be interested in knowing how they were able to buy Boeing 747s. Those are huge transactions, you can't simply buy planes with cash. I would assume that it would be through shell companies, but wouldn't (or shouldn't) Boeing be careful about who their customers are?
You are completely missing what the cartels are. They aren't gangsters in mountains with bales of cash. They are hundreds of businesses, thousands of people in everyday life, part of the law, justice system, etc. Having a 747 isn't that much of an accomplishment when you consider that the Google guys have 7 planes and their own NASA airport.
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem isn't gangs; it's gang violence. Making their crimes less stringently punished (reducing the paranoia within their ranks) as well as doing more to restrict the flow of arms from the United States (a better use of funds than incarcerating college potheads) seems a more sensible experiment to try before full legalisation. Consider the negative externalities of cocaine use (much higher than marijuana's); the…
In the tv show The Wire, third season, a Police Captain tried to 'legalise' drugs sale. He put all the dealers, the little soldiers, and said "If you deal in the streets, we will arrest you. If you deal in the free zone, you are free to go". At first, the dealers were very distrustful, but after some days, all the dealers were in the same place. And the addicteds learned that they could only buy drugs in that zone. T…
One of the many things I've learned in my life is that criminals will go where the money is. In the early 20th century it was alcohol, prostitution, gambling, etc. They later moved on to drugs which was more profitable than alcohol, especially after prohibition ended. Criminals will always find a way to extort.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem isn't gangs; it's gang violence. Making their crimes less stringently punished (reducing the paranoia within their ranks) as well as doing more to restrict the flow of arms from the United States (a better use of funds than incarcerating college potheads) seems a more sensible experiment to try before full legalisation. Consider the negative externalities of cocaine use (much higher than marijuana's); the…
In the tv show The Wire, third season, a Police Captain tried to 'legalise' drugs sale. He put all the dealers, the little soldiers, and said "If you deal in the streets, we will arrest you. If you deal in the free zone, you are free to go". At first, the dealers were very distrustful, but after some days, all the dealers were in the same place. And the addicteds learned that they could only buy drugs in that zone. T…
in short:
* same crime to supply addicts is there * inter-gang violence is still there * premium on drug territory increases, thus violence and competition increases
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why isn't cocaine legalized? Honest question - I've never done it nor have a I done a ton of research.
Should any substance be illegal? If we start banning substances rationally, wouldn't cigarettes top the list.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Like tens of thousands dying in the global drug wars annually, mixed with the cultural destruction we see in America's inner cities and with two million people in prison from drugs? I don't see how you're going to stand any chance of causing more problems than that. Cocaine has gotten cheap enough that anybody can try it if they want to. In the 40 year war on drugs, they've had a nearly unlimited budget and all the t…
There's plenty of organized crime arranged around things that should be illegal, for example slavery.
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, if you will be legal drug seller and you will be tight on money, what you will do? Just invest into few small doses and you will have clients for life...
yet somehow we allow nicotine to be sold... or sugar. both are highly addictive.