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Australia starts peanut allergy treatment for babies

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Re: Australia starts peanut allergy treatment for babies

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When I was a kid in Australia decades ago we'd never heard of peanut allergies and swapping peanut butter sandwiches at school was the norm. No doubt there were allergies back then but what on earth has made them so much more common these days? Same with asthma. Something has gone terribly wrong.

I saw a show several years ago that said Australia (I think specifically Melbourne?) and a city in Finland are the epicentre of research for food allergies, because of how prevalent they are. The Finnish two was basically split in two decades ago so that half of it is in Russia and half in Finland. The Finnish side has made significantly better economic progress since then, but also has a much higher rate of allergies. In Australia it seemed to affect first generation descendants of immigrants (I vaguely recall SE Asia and South America being over represented in those impacted?). They had a doctor from Malaysia on the show that had 7 kids, the latter 2 both born in Australia and both had peanut allergies. I remember him saying how hard it is to travel home with them “you tell someone in Malaysia your kids are allergic to satay and they just don’t understand”.

I’m like you re lunches as a kid. I never liked peanut butter as a kid, but it was a staple option among kids alongside Nutella and Vegemite. Now peanut butter and Nutella is banned in a lot of classrooms.

Re: Australia starts peanut allergy treatment for babies

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Our son is very allergic to peanuts and less so to cashew, and sesame. We went through oral immunotherapy and it's been absolutely life changing. He used to need an epi pen in case of chance encounter, but now he eats 2 whole peanut m&ms every day to keep his dosage up. It's been difficult finding an allergist in Germany that's willing to accept this and move forward Obviously everyone's mileage will vary, but I'm ha…

In Israel this is done naturally by feeding children Bamba, a puffed peanut snack, at a very early age. Research shows significantly decreased levels of peanut allergy. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/02/23/388450621/fe...

If you live in the USA and have eastern-european or balkans shop in your area you can buy "smoki" which is essentially the same thing.

Or you can order it from amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Smoki-Peanuts-Flavored-Snack-Pack/dp/...

Re: Australia starts peanut allergy treatment for babies

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> It's been difficult finding an allergist in Germany that's willing to accept this and move forward What are they saying? They don't believe in oral immunotherapy?

They tend to be critical against immunotherapy in general, if it's not for those allergies where the therapy has a good chance of working and is without risk. Otherwise avoidance of the allergen is preached. We encountered that with a cat hair allergy, treatment was refused.

> avoidance of the allergen

whats the point of the allergist then?

Re: Australia starts peanut allergy treatment for babies

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For curiosity sake, curious if the tree nut allergy here was typical reactions (hives, nose, etc.)? I have a tree nut "allergy" but doctors always call it more of a "hypersensitivity" because my reactions are usually involving terrible stomach cramps and pain accompanied occasionally by swollen throat (more so for almonds than cashews). I've wondered if it's worth trying to do this myself.

Why wouldn’t you see the doctor? Cost? Not covered by insurance?

for allergies most doctors are utterly useless. they either dont know the topic or the tests are unreliable and in the end you come out with no more info than you came in.

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They tend to be critical against immunotherapy in general, if it's not for those allergies where the therapy has a good chance of working and is without risk. Otherwise avoidance of the allergen is preached. We encountered that with a cat hair allergy, treatment was refused.

> avoidance of the allergen whats the point of the allergist then?

My question exactly.

To be fair, for hay fever the therapy was offered. And reading it up back then, the treatments against animal hair are often not successful, and they have a certain risk. Plus no standardized medication, so there are problems with keeping the exact dosage needed. All that combined made me conclude that not wanting to lead such a treatment is not a completely unreasonable position for a doctor. One would have to find a doctor specialized enough to do it anyway.

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I visited my local allergist for this (in the USA). Basically the treatments available to me were either shots or eyedrops. The shots required visiting the office almost daily, then weekly, then less frequently. The eyedrops can be self administered. I was told both treatment options are not permanent and need to be basically done in perpetuity. The cost was a couple thousand dollars per year (basically no insurance…

> I was told both treatment options are not permanent and need to be basically done in perpetuity You were told wrong. Shots have a ramp-up period and then a five year maintenance period where you get one shot a month. Afterwards, you've effectively been cured.

A friend just started the shots and there was no ramp up, he's getting the shots every four to six weeks from the start. When I looked into it ten years ago, you had to come in weekly for a long time, which discouraged me from doing it.

Re: Australia starts peanut allergy treatment for babies

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In Israel this is done naturally by feeding children Bamba, a puffed peanut snack, at a very early age. Research shows significantly decreased levels of peanut allergy. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/02/23/388450621/fe...

If you live in the USA and have eastern-european or balkans shop in your area you can buy "smoki" which is essentially the same thing. Or you can order it from amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Smoki-Peanuts-Flavored-Snack-Pack/dp/...

To continue the message of availability…

Trader Joe’s in the US has both regular Bamba and chocolate-dipped Bamba. These are sometimes in different parts of the store.

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> Overall, food allergy was lower in the group introduced to allergenic foods early but the difference was not statistically significant. How is that proving the hypothesis?

Keep reading: > ... Early introduction of all the foods was not easy but it was safe. Among the infants who did manage to consume the recommended quantity of the allergenic foods there was a two-thirds reduction in overall food allergy. > For those who fed their infant the recommended amount of peanut there was a significant reduction in peanut allergy, 2.5% in the standard introduction group compared to no cases in…

I fail to see how your chosen quotes prove your point. How is 66% reduction not statistically significant?
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