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AI solves International Math Olympiad problems at silver medal level

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Re: AI solves International Math Olympiad problems at silver medal level

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In 1997, machines defeated a World Chess Champion for the first time, using brute-force "dumb search." Critics noted that while "dumb search" worked for chess, it might not necessarily be a general strategy applicable to other cognitive tasks.[a] In 2016, machines defeated a World Go Champion for the first time, using a clever form of "dumb search" that leverages compute, DNNs, reinforcement learning (RL), and self-p…

A brute force search has perfect knowledge. Calling it "dumb" encourages bad analogies -- it's "dumb" because it doesn't require advanced reasoning. It's also "genius" because it always gets the right answer eventually. It's hugely expensive to run.

And you keep shifting the goalpost on what's called "dumb" here.

Re: AI solves International Math Olympiad problems at silver medal level

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My old AI professor used to say that every problem is a search problem. The issue is that to find solutions for useful problems you're often searching through highly complex and often infinite solution spaces.

There's no problem with search. The goal is to search most efficiently.

You mean that by improving search we can solve any problem? What if solution field is infinite, even if we make search algo 10x100 more performant, solution field will still be infinite, no?

Re: AI solves International Math Olympiad problems at silver medal level

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post #177

In 1997, machines defeated a World Chess Champion for the first time, using brute-force "dumb search." Critics noted that while "dumb search" worked for chess, it might not necessarily be a general strategy applicable to other cognitive tasks.[a] In 2016, machines defeated a World Go Champion for the first time, using a clever form of "dumb search" that leverages compute, DNNs, reinforcement learning (RL), and self-p…

So all forms of search are dumb in your view?

Re: AI solves International Math Olympiad problems at silver medal level

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At the IMO "silver medal" afaik is define as some tange of points, which more or less equals some range of problems solved. For me it is fair to say that "silver-medal performance" is IMO langauge for about 4/6 problems solved. And what's the problem if some clickbait websites totally spin the result? They would've done it anyways even with a different title, and I also don't see the harm. Let people be wrong.

No, "silver medal" is defined as a range of points to be earned in the allotted time (4.5 hours for both papers of 3 problems each).

And the cutoffs are chosen after the results are in, not in advance.

Re: AI solves International Math Olympiad problems at silver medal level

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post #181
post #177

In 1997, machines defeated a World Chess Champion for the first time, using brute-force "dumb search." Critics noted that while "dumb search" worked for chess, it might not necessarily be a general strategy applicable to other cognitive tasks.[a] In 2016, machines defeated a World Go Champion for the first time, using a clever form of "dumb search" that leverages compute, DNNs, reinforcement learning (RL), and self-p…

A brute force search has perfect knowledge. Calling it "dumb" encourages bad analogies -- it's "dumb" because it doesn't require advanced reasoning. It's also "genius" because it always gets the right answer eventually. It's hugely expensive to run. And you keep shifting the goalpost on what's called "dumb" here.

You might have missed the point.

Re: AI solves International Math Olympiad problems at silver medal level

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The computer did find the answers itself. I.e., it found "even integers" for P1, "{1,1}" for P2, and "2" for P6. It then also provided provided a Lean proof in each case.

formal definition of first theorem already contain answer of the problem "{α : ℝ | ∃ k : ℤ, Even k ∧ α = k}" (which mean set of even real numbers).if they say that they have translated first problem into formal definition then it is very interesting how they initially formalized problem without including answer in it

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Re: AI solves International Math Olympiad problems at silver medal level

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post #177

In 1997, machines defeated a World Chess Champion for the first time, using brute-force "dumb search." Critics noted that while "dumb search" worked for chess, it might not necessarily be a general strategy applicable to other cognitive tasks.[a] In 2016, machines defeated a World Go Champion for the first time, using a clever form of "dumb search" that leverages compute, DNNs, reinforcement learning (RL), and self-p…

From whence are you quoting the phrase "dumb search?"

Re: AI solves International Math Olympiad problems at silver medal level

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You'd think that, but Timothy Gowers (the famous mathematician they worked with) wrote ( https://x.com/wtgowers/status/1816509817382735986 ) > However, LLMs are not able to autoformalize reliably, so they got them to autoformalize each problem many times. Some of the formalizations were correct, but even the incorrect ones were useful as training data, as often they were easier problems. So didn't actually solve auto…

> However, LLMs are not able to autoformalize reliably, so they got them to autoformalize each problem many times. Some of the formalizations were correct, but even the incorrect ones were useful as training data, as often they were easier problems. A small detail wasn't clear to me: for these incorrectly formalized problems, how do they get the correct answer as ground truth for training? Have a human to manually so…

You write proofs in a formal language that can be machine checked. If the checker is happy, the proof is correct (unless there is a bug in the checker, but that is unlikely).

Re: AI solves International Math Olympiad problems at silver medal level

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The point isn't IMO rules. It's that we are living in a period of time where there are very real consequences of nearly a century of unchecked CO2 due to human industry. And AI (like crypto before it) requires considerable energy consumption. Because of which, I believe we (people who believe in AI) need to hold companies accountable by very transparently disclosing those energy costs.

What if at some point AI figures out a solution to climate change?

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