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Multisatellite data depicts a record-breaking methane leak from a well blowout

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How much ∘C of change in global temperature does this translate to?

On the order of 0. From what I read, we can expect a 1 degree increase if we release somewhere in the ballpark of 100 billion tons of CO2. Using those figures, 3.93 megatons is 0.0000393 degrees. As a point of comparison, humans release roughly 40 gigatons of CO2 per year; 3.93 megatons is 0.0098% of that. As another point of comparison, around 550 gigatons of CO2 is released (and absorbed) by the planet "naturally".…

> As another point of comparison, around 550 gigatons of CO2 is released (and absorbed) by the planet "naturally".

So we are currently within 20% of what the planet does naturally, which seems not that bad actually.

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> We can play semantic games with per-capita consumption, but the fact of the matter remains that even if the entirety of the planet, except China and India, went 100% carbon neutral overnight, it would still be impossible to avoid hitting catastrophic climate change thresholds due to GHG emissions from those two countries alone. Of all the countries China is doing the most to curb its emissions. > Global annual rene…

> Of all the countries China is doing the most to curb its emissions. False. They have good green PR to justify other governments funneling taxpayer money via subsidies but meanwhile they are building the most coal plants than any country and this has been only ramping up in recent years with more new fossil fuel power plants being approved year on year. https://www.carbonbrief.org/china-responsible-for-95-of-new-...

> False.

As I've explained in another comment, adding power stations and capacity doesn't mean running 100% all year. China is using coal as peakers much like other countries use gas for this purpose. Given that China is also installing the most energy storage, it's not long (at current growth, less than 10 years) before these plants are only used in emergency situations.

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Not when you adjust for trade: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/consumption-co2-per-capit...

One of them is GHG (CO2 equivalent) and the other one is just CO2 itself, right? Does seem to change the numbers much, but it’s an additional difference between these metrics, right?

That is a point of difference, but I'd also wager CO2 and GHG overall emissions correlate.

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Meanwhile in California, PG&E underfunded maintenance, perhaps because regulators squeezed too hard? Eventually we had things like the San Bruno gas explosion and wildfires so bad that PG&E went bankrupt. Finding the optimal amount of regulation seems difficult. It seems like too blunt an instrument. Incentives are no substitute for technical people who want to do what's right.

Where on this chart do you see PG&E needing to cut maintenance costs before the wildfires? https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/PCG/pacific-gas-el...

I don’t think that chart has enough detail to understand what happened.

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#185

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Meanwhile in California, PG&E underfunded maintenance, perhaps because regulators squeezed too hard? Eventually we had things like the San Bruno gas explosion and wildfires so bad that PG&E went bankrupt. Finding the optimal amount of regulation seems difficult. It seems like too blunt an instrument. Incentives are no substitute for technical people who want to do what's right.

Government owning the utility would be the answer. But politicians like to have a 3rd party to blame for price hikes and poor service .

If only our energy infrastructure could be run like the DMV.

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Sure it can. Why wouldn't it? Say you find a source of energy with zero cost. Now direct air carbon capture is free. "But you don't have a source with zero cost." Great, now we're talking numbers, how cheap does it have to be? So long as energy transport has inevitable losses, carbon capture stands a chance. In other words, IMO we should consider fossil fuel offsetting with carbon capture as a highly lossy energy tra…

Energy is not the only cost. There are also massive material costs building the carbon capture infrastructure. A reasonable estimate for the scale required is the existing fossile fuel infrastructure. That is, direct air carbon capture means investing an amount on the order of the value of the existing fossile fuel infrastructure to spend energy to achieve nothing of value (except offsetting the damage we caused by n…

I wonder if people may be able to organize some entity that collects money for everybody to use in projects that benefit the society...

But I guess, no, that's impossible!

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> Of all the countries China is doing the most to curb its emissions. False. They have good green PR to justify other governments funneling taxpayer money via subsidies but meanwhile they are building the most coal plants than any country and this has been only ramping up in recent years with more new fossil fuel power plants being approved year on year. https://www.carbonbrief.org/china-responsible-for-95-of-new-...

> False. As I've explained in another comment, adding power stations and capacity doesn't mean running 100% all year. China is using coal as peakers much like other countries use gas for this purpose. Given that China is also installing the most energy storage, it's not long (at current growth, less than 10 years) before these plants are only used in emergency situations.

You explained wrong. literally no one uses coal as peaker ever, and they are building more coal plants than the rest of the world combined (the country is not even the most populous)

Re: Multisatellite data depicts a record-breaking methane leak from a well blowout

#188

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On the order of 0. From what I read, we can expect a 1 degree increase if we release somewhere in the ballpark of 100 billion tons of CO2. Using those figures, 3.93 megatons is 0.0000393 degrees. As a point of comparison, humans release roughly 40 gigatons of CO2 per year; 3.93 megatons is 0.0098% of that. As another point of comparison, around 550 gigatons of CO2 is released (and absorbed) by the planet "naturally".…

> As another point of comparison, around 550 gigatons of CO2 is released (and absorbed) by the planet "naturally". So we are currently within 20% of what the planet does naturally, which seems not that bad actually.

Unfortunately it's not that simple, because the planet absorbs that CO2 too.

So in reality, the important thing is we're going from a delta of 0 gigatons of CO2 per year, to a delta of +40 gigatons of CO2 per year.

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Who knows how to handle a billion refugees?

There will never be a billion refugees. Climate change is slow enough that humans and nature will adapt.

Well we’re at over 100M currently and that number doubled in the past decade

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Who knows how to handle a billion refugees?

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Ignoring the tastelessness of this comment, the bulk of people living in climate threatened areas have land bridges to the broader world and are not principally threatened by rising sea levels
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