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But it's not astounding or horrifying that, say, there are people out there who will rob you at gunpoint?
Sorry, what kind of point are you trying to make? Sure, that’s astounding and horrifying too. Ok?
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You are reiterating Israeli talking points which, just like al Jazeera , are also misleading and not reflective of the actual situation.
The fact that Israel is saying something doesn't mean it's a lie and neither does the fact that Al Jazeera said it. Notice I specifically did not say Israel was innocent in that, so it's very much not the Israeli "talking point". Some things are just bad and don't have any good or convenient solution. You're repeating a false narrative of picking a side in a problematic situation where two zero sum players are trying…
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People use the word "ages" to indicate a significant amount of time. In the context of this war it's correct. This obviously didn't refer to the literal meaning of ages when discussing a 9 month war. It seems to me you're trying to nitpick on a minor choice of words instead of the substance of what I said.
Power is still disabled in large swaths of gaza. Food is still scarce, with far fewer trucks let in versus pre invasion (which was 500 trucks a day), which was already calibrated according to Israeli officials to be "the lowest level possible consistent with avoiding a humanitarian crisis". https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wikileaks-israel-intentionally-...
Power is out in specific areas because Hamas was in control of all civil offices and they're gone. So while the grid is back up, there's no engineers to connect the destroyed relays.
The trucks are back in. The problem is on the other side of the fence https://www.npr.org/2024/04/09/1243752564/hundreds-of-aid-tr...
You can blame that problem on Israel too although this isn't something Israel can fix.
You're using a typical western POV which is severely broken and damaging to the people of Gaza. E.g.
"Hamas Leader Reacts to 3 Sons Being Killed: 'Thank God'" https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-leader-reacts-3-sons-killed-t...
There's a picture of him smiling as he brings the news to his wife where you also see her smiling. I can't imagine losing a child, just thinking about him losing a child makes me tear up. It's unimaginable. Yet Hamas leaders consider the death and suffering of their own children in the Jihad as a blessing.
That is fanatic religious insanity. But they understand that the West doesn't see it that way. So they use Palestinian children in the most heinous ways possible, as couriers between their tunnels and bait. An accidental death of a child is propaganda and they live on that. Recently they published a video of an Israeli army dog attacking an old woman. They literally kidnapped that dog and used it to stage an attack for propaganda.
I'm not saying that horrible things aren't happening there due to Israeli actions. On the contrary, they are. But they are happening there for the most part because Hamas is an enemy of the Palestinian people as much as it is an enemy of Israel. It is using Hospitals, Schools and Mosques as bases. They placed a huge weapons cache under a refuge sanction, then when it exploded it was easy to blame Israel and for 24-48 hours the media reported that it was Israel.
Western ignorant good intentions are prolonging the war and making it worse because they're giving Hamas false hope.
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The fact that Israel is saying something doesn't mean it's a lie and neither does the fact that Al Jazeera said it. Notice I specifically did not say Israel was innocent in that, so it's very much not the Israeli "talking point". Some things are just bad and don't have any good or convenient solution. You're repeating a false narrative of picking a side in a problematic situation where two zero sum players are trying…
The solution is simple. Stop dropping bombs on Palestinian children. Just because Hamas killed 1000 of your children does not mean you have to kill 20000 of Palestinians. 1000-20000 is not zero. The fact that you are not stopping bombing children makes you as evil as Hamas, if not worse.
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It has R&D centers and local business centers. Skype is not in Israel and there's no reason for a VoIP solution to route through a country local facility. The "complete siege" ended ages ago. Israel provides power, food etc.
I don't know about power and food since I have friends in the North who still don't have access.
A seige means the borders are closed. The current situation, for at least 6 months now is that Israel is letting food trucks through the border, more and more every day.
A problem exists for that last mile inside Gaza where no one wants to distribute it because militants will straight up beat truck drivers with sticks to steal the trucks and the food.
You'd think the UN would step in and do something but so far they mostly just sit on their hands bleating.
So to summarize: there are huge piles of food just inside the Gaza border that are not being distributed efficiently/at all.
I also want to point out that it's not in Israel's best interest for there to be food shortages inside Gaza. The first people who will be starved are the hostages, so Israel wants to flood the strip with so much food that some trickles down to her citizens held there against their will.
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People use the word "ages" to indicate a significant amount of time. In the context of this war it's correct. This obviously didn't refer to the literal meaning of ages when discussing a 9 month war. It seems to me you're trying to nitpick on a minor choice of words instead of the substance of what I said.
Power is still disabled in large swaths of gaza. Food is still scarce, with far fewer trucks let in versus pre invasion (which was 500 trucks a day), which was already calibrated according to Israeli officials to be "the lowest level possible consistent with avoiding a humanitarian crisis". https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wikileaks-israel-intentionally-...
Nowadays (as in the last few months) a minimum of 250 FOOD trucks enter Gaza daily. Sometimes as high as 350.
Source, with occasional pictures https://twitter.com/cogatonline
This also means that the embarrassing US floating pier brings in approximately nothing compared to the land crossings.
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Sorry, what kind of point are you trying to make? Sure, that’s astounding and horrifying too. Ok?
Sorry you had to learn about that from me. :( It almost certainly can't happen in your shelter, rest assured.
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You are reiterating Israeli talking points which, just like al Jazeera , are also misleading and not reflective of the actual situation.
The fact that Israel is saying something doesn't mean it's a lie and neither does the fact that Al Jazeera said it. Notice I specifically did not say Israel was innocent in that, so it's very much not the Israeli "talking point". Some things are just bad and don't have any good or convenient solution. You're repeating a false narrative of picking a side in a problematic situation where two zero sum players are trying…
The total civilian death toll of Israel is 695. Edited.
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The fact that Israel is saying something doesn't mean it's a lie and neither does the fact that Al Jazeera said it. Notice I specifically did not say Israel was innocent in that, so it's very much not the Israeli "talking point". Some things are just bad and don't have any good or convenient solution. You're repeating a false narrative of picking a side in a problematic situation where two zero sum players are trying…
>Just because Hamas killed 1000 of your children does not mean you have to kill 20000 of Palestinians The total civilian death toll of Israel is 695. Edited.
> 695 Israeli civilians, 71 foreign nationals, and 373 security forces.[165] This data was published in December 2023, using social security data. There are additionally five people classed as missing, including four Israelis.[165] The deaths included 36 children, of whom 20 were under 15 years old and the youngest was a 10-month-old baby.
Notice that when you say "security forces" western people don't count them in the same way. We do. Israel has a draft law. These are 18 year old kids that were killed in a surprise attack and we see them in the same way as every civilian murdered.
This doesn't include people killed by rocket fire after the 7th or by attacks from Hezbollah.
This also ignores the intention, the severity and the cruelty. It ignores the fact that hostages (including women and babies) are still kept in Gaza.
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>Just because Hamas killed 1000 of your children does not mean you have to kill 20000 of Palestinians The total civilian death toll of Israel is 695. Edited.
Nope. > 695 Israeli civilians, 71 foreign nationals, and 373 security forces.[165] This data was published in December 2023, using social security data. There are additionally five people classed as missing, including four Israelis.[165] The deaths included 36 children, of whom 20 were under 15 years old and the youngest was a 10-month-old baby. Notice that when you say "security forces" western people don't count th…