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Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by dcchambers »

However silly it is, I've always hated the aesthetics of VS Code. I know it's themeable but despite that the overall look and feel just isn't right on MacOS or Linux. That side bar drives me crazy.

I find that out-of-the-box Zed is much prettier and feels more native than VS Code. But for a tool that we spend hours using each day, how it looks and makes you feel really matters.

I am enjoying experimenting with Zed. I have kept my extensions and configuration to a minimum which is a refreshing change compared to the cluster that my VSCode installation has become.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by [deleted] »

whalesalad wrote: post #15

Really dislike the one line installer. How is it installing? Flatpak? Adding an apt repo? Manual install? Fortunately docs go into better detail, https://zed.dev/docs/linux I'm on Debian anyway so who am I kidding expecting this to be in apt :D

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Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by BanazirGalbasi »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #115
fao_ wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"reading a script" is actually a worse user experience on Linux than just using repositories or flatpak, though. It's pretty rude of software developers to put the onus on users to verify that they're not doing something outright malicious in terms of the installer.

Are you not concerned with the software developers doing something outright malicious in the software itself?

Most repositories have some sort of vetting process as far as I'm aware. In the case of Zed, because it's open-source, it can be examined more completely, although I don't think it's expected for every update to be heavily scrutinized.

In the end, at some point you either have to inspect every line of code yourself or trust others to have done it for you. Package managers fall into the latter category.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by 3836293648 »

Tried it with mangohud and scrolled up and down a 100-line c++ file with no lsp enabled. 30fps. Absolutely not ready yet. Not sure I'm willing to leave Emacs, but gpui looks cool and I hope someone makes a fast Emacs client with it some day.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by natemcintosh »

mikaylamaki wrote: post #131
natemcintosh wrote: post #78

Anyone else get ~60-70% CPU usage when moving the mouse around? And no GPU usage.

We have a few words on this in our troubleshooting guide: https://zed.dev/docs/linux#troubleshooting Let us know if that doesn't fix it!

Tried the advice, but wasn't able to change behavior. Added a [comment](https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/13552#issuecomm...) to an existing issue

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by Arch-TK »

aidenn0 wrote: post #171
Arch-TK wrote: post #119

I really don't get why this is the modern editor style of choice. 20% (35 chars) of screen space permanently wasted on a always on file browser (meanwhile the animation showcases fuzzy finding) 4% (7 chars) of screen space permanently wasted by line numbers (why are the numbers cut off on the right?) 2.7% (5 chars) of screen space taken up by a gutter So 27% of screen space effectively dead 99% of the time. Why do pe…

I haven't tried Zed and am unlikely to, but I get 238 characters of fantasque sans mono 11pt on my 1200p screen, so I could give up those spaces and still have two vertical panes (assuming Zed supports vertical panes and the file-browser isn't duplicated).

I think lots of people are comfortable with smaller fonts, but I find myself genuinely straining my eyes too much and getting headaches if I go smaller than this, and I already wear glasses (although I should probably update my prescription).

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by dbalatero »

Arch-TK wrote: post #119

I really don't get why this is the modern editor style of choice. 20% (35 chars) of screen space permanently wasted on a always on file browser (meanwhile the animation showcases fuzzy finding) 4% (7 chars) of screen space permanently wasted by line numbers (why are the numbers cut off on the right?) 2.7% (5 chars) of screen space taken up by a gutter So 27% of screen space effectively dead 99% of the time. Why do pe…

I agree with you and probably have a similar setup to you.

There's a % of people that like to think deeper about their tools, but I think most folks don't care enough or might be struggling with higher priority things at work. Plus, you don't know what you're missing.

For me, good setup is like compound interest that just keeps paying off over time.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by fragmede »

whalesalad wrote: post #143
rad_gruchalski wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when it comes time to update the software I would prefer to know how exactly it is installed so that I can update it correctly Then read the script you complain about.

Three months from now I won't remember using the script to install it. And the contents of the script could completely change. This is not a helpful take.

I find organizing and saving files to disk is a great way to save things I won't remember. Maybe you could try that?

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

#190

Post by zoogeny »

1oooqooq wrote: post #166
zoogeny wrote: post #155

I'm a sucker for text editors. I've used so many at this point. Notepad++ from way back. Anyone remember Komodo, the Perl focused text editor from ActiveState? BBEdit. TextMate. Sublime text. Atom. Visual Studio Code. All kinds of IDEs from Eclipse to the IntelliJ family and the full fledged Visual Studio. I've used many flavors of vim and learned emacs multiple times. I doubt I've named half of the editors I've used…

komodo the editor (i recall it as a semi-commercial alternative to eclipse, much like intellij, but based on mozilla UX code?) was funny, because exactly the time it got traction and people started to talk about it, the tech news were inundated with Comodo the TLS operator caught doing shaddy stuff (and if i recall, blaming some hackers) didn't hear much about komodo till now

Komodo had some promise, in kind of the same way the original hype about Perl 6 had promise. For its time, it had features that were not widely available in other editors. However, I found it to be slow and buggy. And that was compared to Eclipse which was notoriously clunky. (Note: a quick look at the modern Komodo Editor, which appears to still be actively developed, looks much closer to a Visual Studio Code clone and is nothing like I recall the original)

I recall it was pitched as a slightly lighter alternative to eclipse and intellij but initially geared towards Perl development (with plugin support for all languages). However, that kind of middle-ground wasn't popular at the time and devs mostly split into the full featured IDE camp or the stripped down editor camp.

Editor hype cycles come and go. That's part of the reason I am so jaded when I see a new cycle start for a new editor.

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