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Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by windexh8er »

web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #89
kstrauser wrote: post #3

Not the submitter, but I installed this a couple days ago to replace Bartender. For those not following along at home, the Bartender author just sold it to some sketchy app mill. It’s an app that legitimately requires screen recording permissions to work. I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner. Ice isn’t as good yet. It’s not nearly so configurable. For example, you can either hide…

I didn’t know Bartender was sold. I thought it was fishy to need screen recording permissions but I assumed it was because of “security” features of the new macOS/m series chip/whatever so I just let it go because I trusted the Bartender dev. Uninstalled. What a shame.

The Reddit thread for context [0].

I sent an email to the original author with my feedback. I can understand why, but I got an autoreply that the mailbox was no longer monitored (even though it's still his personal domain). The things that transpired in the transition are all things I would expect an indie dev to not do. Ultimately my message to Ben was that it was unfortunate how everything was handled and that customers weren't notified. I was a paying customer of Bartender. I'll never use the software again, nor will I buy anything from the original author.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/macapps/comments/1d7zjv8/bartender_...

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by LoganDark »

carlosjobim wrote: post #162
latexr wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Of course it is slander to say that somebody's reputation is damaged. Of course it is not. Reputations are, by definition, opinions. And opinions are subjective. > because he sold his own business? If you’re not going to engage in good faith and will just keep repeating the exact same argument after its inaccuracy has been pointed out to you, I don’t see the point in continuing the conversation. Engage with the wor…

It doesn't matter that it's your opinion. Naming a person as having a damaged reputation is very serious. That can and will have real life consequences, all for some bickering about a utility tool for MacOS. Be proportional. You wouldn't publicly name some other person as having a damaged reputation in real life, so why do you consider it acceptable to do here? And you shouldn't give apps permission to record your sc…

> And you shouldn't give apps permission to record your screen. That's your responsibility.

Clearly, they already know this. They're exercising this responsibility by ceasing to use an app that they no longer trust with their privacy.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by eddyg »

sontek wrote: post #103
TMWNN wrote: post #16

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I could never get Hidden Bar to work correctly. I think it's because my MacBook has a notch. iBar (free at the App Store) so far does what I need.

You need https://apps.apple.com/us/app/say-no-to-notch/id1639306886?m...

You don’t need an app to not use the extra pixels Apple added on either side of the notch.

If you want the same appearance (and resolution) as a non-notch MacBook Pro, open System Settings, go to the Displays section, click Advanced... and toggle on “Show resolutions as list”, save that change, and then enable “Show all resolutions”.

Now select the resolution option just below your current selection. (The y-dimension will be slightly less, which equals the space added by the pixels around the notch.)

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by msephton »

jsomedon wrote: post #5

I particularly like the explanation on naming it ice : > Because your menu bar becomes like ice, allowing your menu bar items to slide away

It's not a great name, for discoverability reasons, but I assumed the name was playing on the relationship with Bartender.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by msephton »

anileated wrote: post #119
omnimus wrote: post #23

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Why would anyone write comment like this? Like does it add anything to the discussion? Who cares that you dont use menubar apps so you dont need Bartender.

I opened the README and Usage section only showed how to reorder items, nothing else. This app is utterly unnecessary for that purpose. I thought, perhaps other macOS users are unaware of that, and my comment would help.

It shows how to reorder them into groups that are hidden temporarily and/or permanently. Very useful to keep a clutter free and optimised workspace.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by msephton »

user3939382 wrote: post #128
drdo wrote: post #75

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I care! Does your solution involve disabling SIP?

This utility allows it https://totalspaces.binaryage.com/ You hit a keyboard shortcut, you get to the new space with 0 animation/transition. It can work with SIP on but only on macOS older than 10.14. They mention here this is due to some changes they make to the Dock https://totalspaces.binaryage.com/sip-details I'm not sure if the only part I care about (instant Spaces switching) would continue to work without that…

You can get pretty fast Spaces switching by checking Reduce Motion in Accessibility. Obviously that has applied to other things across the system.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by KronisLV »

nottorp wrote: post #138
KronisLV wrote: post #19

I got a MacBook for a freelance development project (also needed to build an iOS app) and I have to say that the OS itself feels pretty good. Very much a walled garden and normally perhaps outside of my budget (and the button order on the keyboard feels odd), but in general it's pretty smooth so far! Nice to see various customization options, BetterDisplay was also pretty useful when dealing with an external monitor…

You're saying about what I said when I first got paid to do some mac software :) I bought a crappy used mac, used it to make the money, then thought it was immoral to not get a new laptop (it wasn't a big project but it paid like 3x the laptop, and i was moonlighting it so it was all bonus money). 15 years later i have more macs than x86 boxes in my home office...

I have to say that personally I like the ThinkPad keyboards a bit more and I still have a sweet spot for various Linux distros, but for what it's worth, my experience with the MacBook has been pretty darn good so far!

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by michaelcampbell »

oefrha wrote: post #100
scottoreilly wrote: post #91

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> For example, you can either hide all icons or none. I thought so at first too, but it’s just a confusing UI. The documentation says: > Simply Command + drag your menu bar items to rearrange them. What isn’t said is that this dragging also allows you to keep some of the items permanently showing. Anything you drag to the right of that double arrow icon will stay there.

Good thing it’s been added to README now, I was similarly stumped two days ago and only found out from the issue tracker: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40580582 The instructions really should be in the app, though.

Indeed, I had to 'call a friend' to figure it out. I knew it was possible, but couldn't figure out how. Loving the minimalism of it now, though.
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