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How Home Assistant is being used to protect from missile and drone attacks

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Re: How Home Assistant is being used to protect from missile and drone attacks

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Moscow would freely admit they are driving the culture war? Can you cite that? Either way, aren’t you disagreeing with your own statement. What you’re really saying is Russian disinformation is effective.

sorry I'm not allowed to get into flamewars

Re: How Home Assistant is being used to protect from missile and drone attacks

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Moscow would freely admit they are driving the culture war? Can you cite that? Either way, aren’t you disagreeing with your own statement. What you’re really saying is Russian disinformation is effective.

sorry I'm not allowed to get into flamewars

No need to apologise. I was honestly curious.

Re: How Home Assistant is being used to protect from missile and drone attacks

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I see because the US border is near there? Not on the other side of the Pacific Ocean. Anyone familiar with history, recall that Mexico was bigger? Did the Chinese get involved in that conflict? I guess what we are saying is they should have to stop an aggressor annexing territory? Oh wait, but that was actual land, where as the annexing you are talking about is ocean… ocean that the US has filled with military bases…

So countries may only send their aircraft and ships along their own border now? Anyone is free to operate in international waters. And, yes, Chinese military ships do at times sail just outside US territorial waters to monitor naval exercises. It’s quite telling that the examples you have to bring up of the US annexing territory are from over a century ago, before we had developed modern concepts of international law…

None of my examples (except China) were from over a century ago, nor were they from before the United Nations (or League of Nations existed).

Guess you need to look at the nations that took part in the various battles during the annexation of Hong Kong, Opium Wars etc. The US was not involved?

Didn’t say China has done nothing wrong, just if we are looking at nations that need to be reigned in. The US has done more to damage other countries sovereignty than basically the rest of the world combined. So it seems weird to focus on China…

So the US is just protecting Phillipines sovereignty… randomly? Interesting take on it. I wonder why they don’t care about Myanmar… same region… very clear cut destruction of a democracy (which was the reason they went to Vietnam…)

Or even Australia, that time they assisted in the sacking of a prime minister to protect their mining interests. Or the fact they passed laws to try to undermine nations (specifically its allies)to purchase drugs as a whole to prop up the pharmaceutical industry.

It’s not whataboutism. It’s the US is shit to everyone, and the fact that people even talk about China (unless you’re a Uighur, Tibetan, or Filipino) is just falling for US propaganda.

Re: How Home Assistant is being used to protect from missile and drone attacks

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This is just the same old disproven "hard times lead to strong men, strong men lead to good times, good times lead to weak men, weak men lead to hard times" nonsense. If you paid any attention to what the talking heads driving the culture war discourse in the US have openly said about what they have been doing, it's obvious that the "culture war" is about as much the fault of progressives as the Ukraine war is the fa…

> If you want to take a lesson from war driving technological progress, you could just do this in peace times. that's exactly the point though. unless we're threatened with annihilation, or at least loss of access to valuable resources, we as humans don't seem very good at this kind of thing. we'd rather spend it on corruption, bullshit jobs, vanity projects, etc.

Not at all. I think you've confused the word "progression" with "desperation".

Killing is the most basic instinct of animals, a dog can do that if aggravated enough. In fact, a stupid strong dog can be much more violent than a smart strong dog. It's not anything advanced, really. So as war, which is just a form of mass killings.

Peace, on the other hand, is more advanced. It takes a lot effort, maneuver, calculations and compromise to make it happen.

Technological progress will happen (if not happen in a better way) without war, it could be driven by market, or people's wish etc.

War makes people desperate, so they wish to have something to keep them safe immediately, including methods/tools that makes them good at killing (formally called "Defense"). That's why we humans figured out how to build nuclear bombs BEFORE nuclear power stations.

There are also countless example on how wars halted progress. Do you know how many scientists lost their lives because of wars? How many regular people and their potentials gets destroyed because of wars? And how high the reparation could cost to repair what's lost the wars?

All and all, calling "war leads to progress" is a complete void-filled nonsensical bullshit. Kerfuffles, if keeps people safe to enjoy their lives, is way more productive than that.

Re: How Home Assistant is being used to protect from missile and drone attacks

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So countries may only send their aircraft and ships along their own border now? Anyone is free to operate in international waters. And, yes, Chinese military ships do at times sail just outside US territorial waters to monitor naval exercises. It’s quite telling that the examples you have to bring up of the US annexing territory are from over a century ago, before we had developed modern concepts of international law…

None of my examples (except China) were from over a century ago, nor were they from before the United Nations (or League of Nations existed). Guess you need to look at the nations that took part in the various battles during the annexation of Hong Kong, Opium Wars etc. The US was not involved? Didn’t say China has done nothing wrong, just if we are looking at nations that need to be reigned in. The US has done more t…

> None of my examples (except China) were from over a century ago, nor were they from before the United Nations (or League of Nations existed).

I was referring specifically to the example you provided of US annexation of formerly Mexican territory. As far as I know the US hasn't annexed territory since 1945. Which is also when the world collectively changed its approach in an attempt to avoid great powers creating another World War, and shifted to a model where annexation by force is a bad thing. Rather have stable borders shifted by appeals to the ICJ than by rolling tanks over the borders. It has never been a perfect system, of course, but by and large it held as a set of norms until recently.

> Didn’t say China has done nothing wrong, just if we are looking at nations that need to be reigned in. The US has done more to damage other countries sovereignty than basically the rest of the world combined. So it seems weird to focus on China…

That's a very myopic US-centric view, and I think one that can only be held because there's much more accessible

> So the US is just protecting Phillipines sovereignty… randomly? Interesting take on it. I wonder why they don’t care about Myanmar… same region… very clear cut destruction of a democracy (which was the reason they went to Vietnam…)

I never said it was random. Clearly, it's also of strategic value to the US. I said it's because they were invited in by those countries, and remain only because the democratically-elected governments that host them continue to renew those agreements and alliances because it's in their interests too. Myanmar is run by a military junta that doesn't want to be an ally of the US. In contrast, South Vietnam invited the US in.

> It’s not whataboutism. It’s the US is shit to everyone, and the fact that people even talk about China (unless you’re a Uighur, Tibetan, or Filipino) is just falling for US propaganda.

That's exactly whataboutism, and the fact that you think that nobody should even talk about China unless they're Uighur, Tibetan, or Filipino just proves the point. Everyone has an interest in a peaceful, stable, and fair global order, and that means opposing the actions of any country that threatens it whether it's the US, China, Russia, or any other power. China's clearly stated ambitions to take over Taiwan by force, for instance, would massively and negatively impact the rest of us through the knock on effects to the global economy and the shortage of key electronic parts like chips.

Re: How Home Assistant is being used to protect from missile and drone attacks

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None of my examples (except China) were from over a century ago, nor were they from before the United Nations (or League of Nations existed). Guess you need to look at the nations that took part in the various battles during the annexation of Hong Kong, Opium Wars etc. The US was not involved? Didn’t say China has done nothing wrong, just if we are looking at nations that need to be reigned in. The US has done more t…

> None of my examples (except China) were from over a century ago, nor were they from before the United Nations (or League of Nations existed). I was referring specifically to the example you provided of US annexation of formerly Mexican territory. As far as I know the US hasn't annexed territory since 1945. Which is also when the world collectively changed its approach in an attempt to avoid great powers creating an…

So China has stated its intent on Taiwan.

But the US actually did it: Iraq and Afghanistan.

It’s not nobody should talk about China, it’s that it literally hasnt done anything worth talking about compared with a whole host of countries…

If you think the view is myopic… how about you challenge it? Who’s disturbed more foreign nations than the US? Like in the history of civilisation.

Myanmar was not run by a junta, it was a democracy and they did invite the US and are desperately asking for help right now… just like Vietnam did. So what is different?

I would say because the US only wants to fuck with China and couldn’t care less about these other nations. Which you also admit is the case. What is “strategic” about protecting the Philippines? The answer is China, most specifically “containing China” - but why “contain” a country that has never expressed ill will towards you?

Is the US also containing India?

It is like people purposely pretend the US are the “Good guys” and ignore any other possibility.

If you point this out, it’s whataboutism (a made up term pretending to be a fallacy used generally to justify American exceptionalism)

Re: How Home Assistant is being used to protect from missile and drone attacks

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What would you choose?

Not an easy questions as it depends what's popular in the local market, you need to be where the users are even if you don't like it in cases like this. Telegram also has a great bot API, which makes it a harder sell to use alternatives (Signal, WhatsApp) or open technology like Matrix, where it's only useful for people that like to play around with technology and not regular people.

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Re: How Home Assistant is being used to protect from missile and drone attacks

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> None of my examples (except China) were from over a century ago, nor were they from before the United Nations (or League of Nations existed). I was referring specifically to the example you provided of US annexation of formerly Mexican territory. As far as I know the US hasn't annexed territory since 1945. Which is also when the world collectively changed its approach in an attempt to avoid great powers creating an…

So China has stated its intent on Taiwan. But the US actually did it: Iraq and Afghanistan. It’s not nobody should talk about China, it’s that it literally hasnt done anything worth talking about compared with a whole host of countries… If you think the view is myopic… how about you challenge it? Who’s disturbed more foreign nations than the US? Like in the history of civilisation. Myanmar was not run by a junta, it…

The US was rightly condemned for its invasion of Iraq, and more should have been done by the world’s nations to prevent it. We have that opportunity with China and Taiwan now, and letting it happen just because other major powers have done stuff too would be a mistake.

The USSR (and now Russia) and China have ‘disturbed’ just as many foreign nations as the US. Both have long pursued interventionist foreign policies, covertly and overtly supporting sub-national groups that worked in their interests. Even in the most recent years we have Russian intelligence causing a string of coups throughout Africa and funding and supporting disruptive extremist groups, and China has been caught spying on the African Union’s governance structures in order to influence continental policy and coerce leaders.

It’s less publicised and less visible because, unlike the US, neither Russia nor China have a free and unfettered press and civil society who can obtain and report on leaks and other embarrassing information.

It’s not enough that Myanmar was a democracy, because soon after winning elections that administration launched a genocidal campaign against the Rohingya. There’s also no strategic interest for the US there. As I said earlier, alliances happen when the two align.

The US’s strategic interest in that area is not to ‘fuck’ with China, but to preserve a rules-based order that’s open for international trade. If China is allowed to take over the entire South China Sea and other surrounding areas they can close it to any traffic whenever they want, they’ll be more easily able to take over Taiwan and maybe even countries like the Philippines, and there’ll be nothing stopping them from annexing more and more territory. We saw in the 1930s what allowing this sort of thing can lead to. I’d say it’s in all our interests, not just the US’s, that China not be allowed to simply annex more territory. I’d similarly be opposed to the US or any other country trying to annex territory by force.

Re: How Home Assistant is being used to protect from missile and drone attacks

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So China has stated its intent on Taiwan. But the US actually did it: Iraq and Afghanistan. It’s not nobody should talk about China, it’s that it literally hasnt done anything worth talking about compared with a whole host of countries… If you think the view is myopic… how about you challenge it? Who’s disturbed more foreign nations than the US? Like in the history of civilisation. Myanmar was not run by a junta, it…

The US was rightly condemned for its invasion of Iraq, and more should have been done by the world’s nations to prevent it. We have that opportunity with China and Taiwan now, and letting it happen just because other major powers have done stuff too would be a mistake. The USSR (and now Russia) and China have ‘disturbed’ just as many foreign nations as the US. Both have long pursued interventionist foreign policies,…

China has been rightly condemned for "speaking" of invading Taiwan. What would you like the world to do for this "thought crime" given no invasion has occurred? Surround the country in military bases? We've done that, has that helped defuse the situation?

China have pursued interventionist policies? You are going to need to cite that. Which African leaders did China coerce?

Your reasoning for "less publicised and less visible" doesn't make sense... couldn't the "free press" of the US shine a light on it? Taiwan has a free press...?

I think you need to understand Myanmar better, it was the military that launched the genocidal campaign, and it was the military that overthrew the democracy. Converting a state that shares a land border with China to be an ally of the US feels way more strategic than the Phillipines... or even Taiwan for that matter (sans the microchip manufacturing capacity).

"Rules based order" - Wow, straight out of "Western nations' talking points". You honestly sound like the communists quoting Mao from the little red book. Is the US following this rules based order? Seems to me China is following those rules more than the US ever did. Which rules is china breaking?

Like when the US signed the treaty that said space would not be militarised, then it created the "space force", and banned china for the ISS. Or that it wouldn't imprison people unfairly (according to both its own constitution AND its international treaties), so it created prisons on foreign soil to imprison them unfairly. Or that it helped establish the United Nations but then lied to them, and ignored them when it invaded Iraq... well and Pakistan... which no one even mentions. When it established the five-eyes then used that infrastructure to spy on its own allies.

Did you mean domestically? Like how it impeached its last president twice, has since convicted him as a felon... so he can't vote? But can still run as president? That rule based system?

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