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I was aware of that. But parent did raise an interesting point. Google Wallet isn't doing too great. Why?
the sheer number of possible answers is overwhelming, but pretty much everything Google does fails, except for search and email. (I can't be the only one who's afraid to find out what their cars are like.) so I'm going to say the reason Google Wallet failed is because it was neither search nor email. I guess you could say Android is only half a failure, because the constant catch-up game they're playing with Apple is…
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#182= Inital Idea = You're perpetually logged into a social network, why not pair up a payment method and leverage that connection. Always be connected to a payment method/global checkout - authorised by a 4 digit pin.
There's an array of pro's as cons for this.
= Issues for Facebook (and Twitter) =
The hurdles to get setup as a Payment Service Provider, and have the capability to preform cross-border, cross-country transactions, dealing with multiple currencies, as well as boarding merchants outside of the US, is a complete bitch.
It would be completely out of Facebook's internal focus to build and maintain this - outsourcing/partnering is a different story.
= Facebook's Cut =
Facebook takes a 1/3 cut from developers for FB Credits. They can't take a 1/3 cut from credit card processing.
They'll realistically take 2.75 - 3.5% and that would just piss off their developers who are being charged a 1/3, unless FB reduce their 1/3 cut - which I doubt they'd do.
Facebook would (probably) make more cash using FB Credits than processing credit cards - The margins are rediculously low with card processing (varies on card type) - It's game of volume.
Unless you're PayPal who charge you 2/3% for sending money between PayPal accounts. When all they're doing is ACH transfers between "dynamic bank accounts" they've setup, which costs them under 5 cents to preform.
= The trust factor = with Facebook (Guy/Girl's in Social Commerce take notice here).
Consumer's/Users whatever you want to call them simply would not trust Facebook with their super sensitive data (Credit Card & Billing Information). They don't have the best reputation when it comes to users data.
They might experience some success and sign up a few tech savy users - but ultimately - even if they sort out all of the technical & logistical issues they will constantly face this one.
This is why social commerce isn't full circle, or shouldnt be. When was the last time you entered your credit card details into a Facebook app? would you?
Social Commerce is really the discovery of products, but when it comes to facilitating the transaction, consumers need to be out of the ecosystem where "public" data is flowing, their friends are talking to them, or irrelevant social data is distracting them.
Consumers feel incredibily uncomfortable entering sensetive data into a platform which they use with the mindset of "sharing".
Unless of course it could be masked under a "Pay by Facebook" option which doesnt require the user to type in and sesntive information - ha.
Those are just my thoughts, and of course you have risk, disputes, charge backs, being the ultimate target for russian hackers etc.
I could be completly wrong, but I think a third party needs to step in here.
Facebook and a Dwolla/GoCardless partnership - now that would be intresting - you can fake a credit card but you cant fake a bank account.
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#183Facebook has demonstrated a completely utter disdain for interacting with their users. If something goes wrong with your "friend wall" or whatever, it's an inconvenience. If something goes wrong with your money, you want to talk to a human. Everyone knows you can't reach fb humans. When it's money, that matters. The work involved in turning that perception around is a huge hurdle to this idea.
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google Wallet is actually fairly useless. To load it up you need a credit card. If you have a credit card, you could just as well, uhm, use a credit card.
I think your parent was being sarcastic. We need a sarcasm tag in HTML.
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#185Just plain silly. People who see a big user base and jump to the conclusion of "payments!" as a future business don't have the slightest clue what they're talking about. Facebook isn't competent at tackling that problem, they don't have the expertise, experience, or relationships. It makes about as much sense as looking at facebook with their billion users and saying "You know what all these people have in common? Th…
Certainly it is a difficult market to enter, but a few billion dollars can buy you a lot of expertise, relationships, and time to build experience.
The reason Facebook should go into transactions is the same reason Willie Sutton robbed banks: "because that's where the money is".
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was aware of that. But parent did raise an interesting point. Google Wallet isn't doing too great. Why?
Because internet payment is a solved problem. Here's my credit card number, click click. It works, it's easy enough, and I'm not sure I want it to be any easier.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
A recent report showed that the minority that click ads at facebook is pretty close to half. Not a bad minority to have using your site.
Could you please provide a link to the report? 50% click rate is insanely high, nobody has that. It would be very interesting to know how Facebook achieved such miraculous performance.
He is not talking about 50% click rate.
That is, he's not talking about 1 ad.
He says that 50% of FB users have clicked on ads at some point in their FB use.
Which might, or might not be true, but is not the same as "50% click rate".
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#188Facebook has demonstrated a completely utter disdain for interacting with their users. If something goes wrong with your "friend wall" or whatever, it's an inconvenience. If something goes wrong with your money, you want to talk to a human. Everyone knows you can't reach fb humans. When it's money, that matters. The work involved in turning that perception around is a huge hurdle to this idea.
The whole approach of Facebook at its core is a disdain for the users, because Facebook profits from users' profiles. They can argue that users are willing to trade off their privacy for the "free" service, but it's just a sneaky way to get users information to monetize on. Given that, why do you think they should have more respect in other kind of interactions?
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because internet payment is a solved problem. Here's my credit card number, click click. It works, it's easy enough, and I'm not sure I want it to be any easier.
It's not a solved problem. 66% of the world does not have a bank account (much less a credit card). However, 90% have access to a cell phone. That was the basis for my failed micropayments project :) It didn't fail because of a lack of demand, but because it's hard to tackle without significant resources. I still might resurrect a less ambitious version (being a middleman here in Uruguay).