Live data from Hacker News

Veo

deepmind.google

181–190 of 539 posts

Re: Veo

#181
post #46

Not nearly as impressive as Sora. Sora was impressive because the clips were long and had lots of rapid movement since video models tend to fall apart when the movement isn't easy to predict. By comparison, the shots here are only a few seconds long and almost all look like slow motion or slow panning shots cherrypicked because they don't have that much movement. Compare that to Sora's videos of people walking in rea…

[flagged]

[deleted]

Re: Veo

#182
post #114

The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.

You have to give Google credit as they went against the OpenAI fanatics, Google doomsday crowd and some of the permanent critics (who won't disclose they invested in OpenAI's secondary share sale) that believe that Google can't keep up.

In fact, they already did. What OpenAI announced was nothing that Google could not do already.

The top comments around Sora vs Veo suggesting that Google was falling behind, given the fact that both are still unavailable to use wasn't even a point to make in the first place, but just typical HN nonsense.

Re: Veo

#184
post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To add a counterbalance, I just checked in the app and on the website on a non-paid account, and I too do NOT have GPT-4o.

Everyone who says they have access in the replies to my comment seem to be paid users. So maybe it's only rolling out to them first.

I expect they have to offer the paid users some thing

Re: Veo

#185
post #182
post #114

The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.

You have to give Google credit as they went against the OpenAI fanatics, Google doomsday crowd and some of the permanent critics (who won't disclose they invested in OpenAI's secondary share sale) that believe that Google can't keep up. In fact, they already did. What OpenAI announced was nothing that Google could not do already. The top comments around Sora vs Veo suggesting that Google was falling behind, given the…

> What OpenAI announced was nothing that Google could not do already

I don’t think I’ve seen serious criticism of Google’s abilities. Apple didn’t release anything that Xerox or IBM couldn’t do. The difference is they didn’t.

Google’s problem has always been in product follow through. In this case, I fault them for having the sole action item be a buried waitlist request and two new brands (Veo and VideoFX) for one unreleased product.

Re: Veo

#186
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do I get access? I just checked my app and the Premium upgrade says it will unlocked GPT-3.5 and GPT-4, so I assume my version is still the old one. All my apps are updated in the App Store too.

I have a paid account and can do voice to voice on the iOS app as of last night.

The realtime one they showed yesterday or the one that's existed forever where it's just a voice-to-text input and TTS output taking turns?

Re: Veo

#187
post #184
post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone who says they have access in the replies to my comment seem to be paid users. So maybe it's only rolling out to them first.

I expect they have to offer the paid users some thing

Paid users get like a 5x higher rate limit iirc

Re: Veo

#190
post #176
post #46

Not nearly as impressive as Sora. Sora was impressive because the clips were long and had lots of rapid movement since video models tend to fall apart when the movement isn't easy to predict. By comparison, the shots here are only a few seconds long and almost all look like slow motion or slow panning shots cherrypicked because they don't have that much movement. Compare that to Sora's videos of people walking in rea…

> Not nearly as impressive as Sora. Sora was impressive because the clips were long and had lots of rapid movement The most impressive Sora demo was heavily edited. https://www.fxguide.com/fxfeatured/actually-using-sora/

Interesting to see that OpenAI was successful in creating their own reality distortion spells, just like Apple's reality distortion field which has fooled many of these commenters here.

It's quite early to race to the conclusion that one is better than the other when not only they are both unreleased, but especially when the demos can be edited, faked or altered to look great for optics and distortion.

EDIT: It appears there is at least one commenter who replied below that is upset with this fact above.

It is OK to cope, but the truth really doesn't care especially when the competition (Google) came out much stronger than expected with their announcements.

Post reply on HN