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Re: Microsoft closes several large Bethesda affiliated game studios

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Post by chucke1992 »

hbn wrote: post #121
maxrecursion wrote: post #81

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Game development is in a really weird place. Insanely over-saturated but almost all AAA games are extremely derivative, stale, bland games with a coat of pretty graphics Indie games are awesome right now, but they don't have the budgets to produce AAA games. So there is a huge gap. Innovative indie games with cool, new gameplay concepts, but always simple or retro graphics, and AAA games with shiny graphics on the ot…

AAA basically just means nice graphics at this point. You can't dump more money into a piece of art to make it better, that's why all the innovation comes from indie games. Look at Balatro, a guy made a poker roguelike and became a millionaire overnight. I think if big game studios, rather than dumping their copious amounts of money into single, giant-scope games, dealt it out amongst a variety of smaller teams for s…

> I think if big game studios, rather than dumping their copious amounts of money into single, giant-scope games, dealt it out amongst a variety of smaller teams for smaller-scoped projects, they'd be way better off.

Big publishers tried and did not succeed much. EA, Square Enix, T2 with Private Division and so on.

Re: Microsoft closes several large Bethesda affiliated game studios

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Post by chucke1992 »

AlwaysRock wrote: post #91

So... When does the government take action against Microsoft for lying about the Activision merger and how there wouldnt be layoffs?

Lying for what? They did not promise not to close studios or laying off people. Governments should start looking at their own layoffs first too.

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Post by margorczynski »

dvngnt_ wrote: post #173
_mlbt wrote: post #132

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Spot on. I want Elder Scrolls 6 to basically be Skyrim in a stunning new location, with better graphics. Ditto for Forza Horizon 6 and the next installment of The Witcher.

the morrowind fans are turning in their graves

Well it got dumbed down and casualized. Don't even get me started what they did to Fallout...

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Post by gopher_space »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #97
somenameforme wrote: post #82

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It's pretty easy to convert your TV to a PC console. Just grab a HDMI/DisplayPort cable and some USB cables for controllers. Wire your TV up, start Steam Big Picture mode, done. You now have a console with a zillion awesome games in the exact same place you had the console connected. Here's [1] the Steam page for split screen games. Currently there are 934. Can't go wrong with Earth Defense Force! And no you don't ne…

I'd really love cables from my office to my livingroom.

I've always been surprised by the lack of cable tracking options in home electronics stores. Some installations can be done with a drill and a box knife.

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Post by _mlbt »

margorczynski wrote: post #183
dvngnt_ wrote: post #173

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the morrowind fans are turning in their graves

Well it got dumbed down and casualized. Don't even get me started what they did to Fallout...

To be honest, I like my RPGs dumb and casual. Real life uses enough of my brain power and I’m trying to escape.

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Post by anbotero »

Sakos wrote: post #73
drrlvn wrote: post #22

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Only one, Redfall. They're only closing Arkane Austin, not Arkane Lyon. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkane_Studios#Games_developed

This seems bizarre to me. They're closing the one that made Prey 2017. Is it because labor is cheaper in France vs in Austin, USA? Or maybe because everybody who was involved with making Prey left during the shitshow that was Redfall? Or a combination maybe? I can't imagine giving Harvey Smith the axe, though I guess he'll be one of the handful who'll be shuffled off to work on something else inside Bethesda.

Not only it’s probably cheaper in France, but France has strong employee-protection laws, so closing a company there will probably be more costly on severances alone, assuming they can justify to the government why they are closing that company.

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Post by datavirtue »

jarsin wrote: post #101
DannyPage wrote: post #3

Hi-Fi Rush was a fantastic game, won major awards, showed off the promise of XBox Game Pass… and for their efforts their studio has been shut down. There have multiple instances of this in just the past few weeks; are publishers really going to just bet on their prime AAA titles (Call of Duty, Halo, GTA6, etc) and nothing else? And those games either take a lot of rotating studios and a long development cycle to rele…

Haven't you heard and seen the latest VC craze? AI is going to autogenerate millions of games, movies, and books all with the click of a button.

Yeah, I'm hoping to find some type of image AI service that can produce passable art assets for 2D game development. Just good enough to do POC work. I have started a few gaming projects over the years and always ran into a brick wall needing assets.

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Post by iLoveOncall »

beeboobaa3 wrote: post #54
iLoveOncall wrote: post #23

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Honestly I think it might make sense. I can't remember a single AA game that was great. Actually, I can't remember a single AA game other than the ones I remember because of how bad they were. I think AA in games has, for a long time, meant "We want to do a AAA but don't have the money or time" and this can only end in disaster.

"I don't like this so it should stop existing"

That's absolutely not what I said though, just that it makes sense.

Personally I wish for as many games as possible to exist, the more options the better, even if some are bad.

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Post by w1nst0nsm1th »

maxrecursion wrote: post #81
DannyPage wrote: post #3

Hi-Fi Rush was a fantastic game, won major awards, showed off the promise of XBox Game Pass… and for their efforts their studio has been shut down. There have multiple instances of this in just the past few weeks; are publishers really going to just bet on their prime AAA titles (Call of Duty, Halo, GTA6, etc) and nothing else? And those games either take a lot of rotating studios and a long development cycle to rele…

Game development is in a really weird place. Insanely over-saturated but almost all AAA games are extremely derivative, stale, bland games with a coat of pretty graphics Indie games are awesome right now, but they don't have the budgets to produce AAA games. So there is a huge gap. Innovative indie games with cool, new gameplay concepts, but always simple or retro graphics, and AAA games with shiny graphics on the ot…

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1931770/Chants_of_Sennaar...

Some independant studio or publishers have their fans base : Amanita Design, Playdead, Zachtronics, Devolver Digital, Annapurna Interractive are for me the folk to watch.

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