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Re: Meta Horizon OS

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I wonder if this "opening" of the operating system is their way of putting the metaverse project out to pasture - analogous to donating it to the Apache Foundation - without admitting that the company burned $36 billion on a misadventure.

Why would they shut down the Metaverse? It’s clearly the future and Zuck brought it up again in the last podcast that people are linking to. Apple just release a bad headset that just confirmed the bet that Meta took

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I'm guessing it's the opposite. Meta is trying to establish the same OS-level foothold/control that Microsoft, Apple and Google have.

Is there better place to place ads than Metaverse ;)

It's great isn't it! All ads should go there. In fact ads should be banned everywhere else!

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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post #179

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no, those are completely different… a facebook account is an account on a social network that requires you to use your real name or else you get banned. a facebook account links you to your real life identity and your real life social circles a meta account is an account that you can optionally link to their social medias, but it isn’t required meta accounts are basically just oculus accounts

I don't need an account to use my monitor or my TV. Why do I need one for a VR Headset?

Because these aren’t dumb headsets that just plug into your PC. These are standalone headsets that handle the whole thing — they aren’t just a display and controllers, they take the role of the PC too.

So, needing an account for these is more comparable to needing an account to use Steam

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What category has Google really succeeded in since the initial era of gmail/Android/chrome? I can't think of any recent successes off the top of my head.

'really succeeded' sounds super crazy dismissive. Besides android being gigantic huge, you still have google maps, chrome, gmail, pixel phones, passkey, yubikeypush/2fa, the new cookie aproach, YouTube!!1 etc. Why would Google need a 'recent' success to be able to win ar snail?

the point is probably about whether google still has the ability to go from 0 to 1. instead of 1 to n. from the outside they look like they are not so slowing becoming the bean counting accountant / MBA type of company.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Having a personal computer at home was a game-changer, though. "The Metaverse" has been around for a couple years now, and yet consumer VR (which has been around for eight years now) is still just a "gimmick", rather than a must-have. The IBM Personal Computer released in 1981. By 1989... yeah. iPhone came out in 2007. By 2015, smartphones ruled the world.

Before the iPhone we had palm pilots, blackberries, etc. I prefer to think of it as consumer VR simply hasn't had its iPhone moment yet

It’s crazy because if you try the Quest it’s quite insane how good it is already. If I were to guess what could give it an iPhone moment:

- lighter/more comfortable

- faster to get started when you put the headset on

- more social experiences and event organized in VR

- shorter time from headset on to hanging out with your friends in VR

A number of years ago I convinced a bunch of my friends to buy the Quest after being blown away by board games in VR, but turns out Catan only worked for the Go and it was a lot of work to do something together in VR.

IMO there needs to be some sort of lobby that does not take you away from hanging out with your friends when you’re in between games. I should be able to easily join a lobby or pause a game to go to a lobby and wave at my friend who’s playing to pause and join me in the lobby

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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post #155
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I'm guessing it's the opposite. Meta is trying to establish the same OS-level foothold/control that Microsoft, Apple and Google have.

Having a personal computer at home was a game-changer, though. "The Metaverse" has been around for a couple years now, and yet consumer VR (which has been around for eight years now) is still just a "gimmick", rather than a must-have. The IBM Personal Computer released in 1981. By 1989... yeah. iPhone came out in 2007. By 2015, smartphones ruled the world.

VR headsets can be fun for some games, but the hardware and software still have a lot of maturing to do, it's not like smartphones where it feels very developed and there's not much more room for obvious growth/improvement.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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I would really love to see proper educational content from Meta but i bet this is not were the 'next money thing' is. Imagine a catalog of proper real life skills you can actually train reasonable good: - cooking - soldering - welding - Tons of woodworking things - ... You could also go to a lot of makers of tools and offer them to digitalize their products for them so someone can actually exercise with a cheap to su…

Yeah, we could call that the... Job Simulator ;)

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Why can't you play BeatSaber without mods?

You can - it's just far less fun than BeatSaber with mods. The biggest improvement is from being able to select from the community list of songs that are available that may better suit your taste than the songs that come built in. It's a rhythm game so using a rhythm you like makes it much more fun.

Besides song choice, the community also produces higher quality charts than the official ones, and offers difficulty that scales much higher.

Lunatics like these can't be sated by the official songs: https://youtu.be/CKwX349aV98 https://youtu.be/sJQSy3KG-oQ?t=33

That first chart averages 12 notes per second for 5 straight minutes and the player only missed a single note.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

#189

"we encourage the Google Play 2D app store to come to Meta Horizon OS, where it can operate with the same economic model it does on other platforms." - I feel like this might be the rub of this. Google is way behind in building the android of spatial computing, and maybe this can play into the trust busting cases where meta can show Google not playing fair?

It sounds to me Meta is terrified of Apple and they needs apps sooner rather than later.

Maybe. So far, Apple's headset isn't particularly impressive or compelling, but I suppose it's possible they'll fix its issues in a future version.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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post #67

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It reads more like they're smartly stepping away from the hardware game they're not really optimized for and focusing on the software and connectivity features that they are. I'm not keen on more headsets having a Meta data vacuum built-in, but this isn't the opposite of putting the metaverse stuff to pasture. They're just shifting from an Apple strategy of full-control vertical integration to a Android/Windows strat…

> It reads more like they're smartly stepping away from the hardware game they're not really optimized for and focusing on the software and connectivity features that they are. Which would be weird cause the hardware (Quest 3/Quest Pro) is top notch, while Metas software for it is garbage. Everything good is provided by 3rd party companies.

I really hope Meta keeps making hardware. I want a Quest 4
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