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The forgotten war on beepers

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Re: The forgotten war on beepers

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Yes, there are many reasonable arguments. For example: your data is sold to third parties you don't know, and they use it against you or in unethical ways. For example, visiting a mental health clinic might mean your car insurance rates go up, or Facebook adjusts their algorithm to cause you more distress and hook you more, or your credit rating goes down. Objectively, you are worse off because you were tracked. See…

Citations needed. These sound like wild conspiracy theories.

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

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If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide. Just ask the animal libratio armys fringes who think that the death penalty is a reasonable response to eating meat.

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Re: The forgotten war on beepers

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It really upsets me that the VHF pager networks were shut down. VHF pagers were the last way you could recieve notifications without having to offer up your location to surveillance. All satellite pagers require transmit-before-receive, and of course LTE requires that plus actively cooperating with the towers' triangulation of the receiver. VHF POCSAG over large urban areas is something we never should have let go of…

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The cell phone company and anyone who offers them money.

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

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post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, there are many reasonable arguments. For example: your data is sold to third parties you don't know, and they use it against you or in unethical ways. For example, visiting a mental health clinic might mean your car insurance rates go up, or Facebook adjusts their algorithm to cause you more distress and hook you more, or your credit rating goes down. Objectively, you are worse off because you were tracked. See…

Citations needed. These sound like wild conspiracy theories.

Citations:

https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2023/03/ftc-says-...

https://www.psychiatrist.com/news/betterhelp-mental-health-a...

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

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Modern conveniences is right. Everything is two factor authenticated now. Even if you avoid that in your private life your workplace is liable to roll it out if they haven't already.

There are alternatives to 2FA that don't require phones. But, yeah, at some point you become the weird person who refused to have a smartphone (or a cell phone at all) and, unless you're really special in some way, you probably have a target on your back.

For my workplace it was a choice of downloading duo on the phone or getting sms codes. In the past year they cut out the sms codes, now you get a temporary code from the duo app you need to enter into the login portal vs just a push to duo.

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

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There are alternatives to 2FA that don't require phones. But, yeah, at some point you become the weird person who refused to have a smartphone (or a cell phone at all) and, unless you're really special in some way, you probably have a target on your back.

For my workplace it was a choice of downloading duo on the phone or getting sms codes. In the past year they cut out the sms codes, now you get a temporary code from the duo app you need to enter into the login portal vs just a push to duo.

There are hardware tokens. But, yes, not everyone supports them.

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

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Beepers with text were peak technology.

It wasn't until the two-ways that I even kind of wanted one. I remember being at the mall with a group of kids and one of the girls got paged by her mom and we had to go around to find a pay phone for her to check in and I recall thinking 'well that's stupid, I just check in when I get somewhere and when I leave, she's just carrying an annoying reminder to go find a payphone' Once kids started sending little messages…

Collect call with a "I'm on my way home" as the caller. Dad would decline.

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

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Because the cell phone company logs that information and will turn it over to law enforcement without a warrant?

They can know I was at Costco too. I’m fine with that.

Surely you're not saying you're fine with your location data leading to wrongful imprisonment, which is what sometimes happens if companies hoard this data?

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/southwest-valley/2...

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