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The post is written by a guy named Ernie that writes a newsletter called Tedium, which I highly recommend. Today’s newsletter about BuzzFeed, which came out earlier this afternoon, alluded to big news coming out of Vice soon. Didn’t know it was gonna be this big, but in any case he called it.

That Vice would shut down is known for weeks at this point though

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#182

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Its odd to think that both Silicon Valley and Vice were from the same phenomenon, but it does track (radical entrepreneurial libertarian "world-changing" businesses). But yeah, the whole neoliberal environment just produced a lot of bullshit in the end (in the developed countries). But I don't think, fortunately, the reaction to neoliberalism is going to stymy creativity at all, I think many are ready to embrace a ne…

Silicon Valley predates low interest rates by decades, and the tsunami of money it generates helped to create an environment where low interest rates for long periods were even possible

"While today 'Silly Con Valley' is thought to refer to the prevalent business models, the name was originally derived from the chemical element when people there used to actually make stuff."

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#183

Its sad that Vice feels like they can only gain value from social media and YouTube. I feel like the best part of the internet is dying (good written detailed content), but the worst part of it is surviving and thriving: social media (short lived, low quality, clickbaity, dopamine chasing content).

I think YouTube is the counter argument to this - long form content from passionate people has taken off pretty good there. Perhaps it's just me, but it seriously makes the rest of social media look like an absolute trashfire by comparison.

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My thoughts as well. It was pretty strong the first few years and rapidly declined in quality for the last 5 or so.

At some point they stopped being fun and challenging and just became weird and angry. As much as I hate to say it (millenial), it's probably due to the age of millenials and genx now. They should have pivoted a different way--more in line with the changing life stage of the readership.

are you implying they swapped to catering to gen Z? why didn't that continue to work, when it did will millennials at that age

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#185

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

the solution here is probably to improve the WM UI

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#186

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

the site is not shutting down. read the full email release

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People still don't realize how many things from the last fifteen years were LIRPs. Low interest rate phenomena doomed the moment investors can get a halfway-decent yield from fixed-income investments.

Its odd to think that both Silicon Valley and Vice were from the same phenomenon, but it does track (radical entrepreneurial libertarian "world-changing" businesses). But yeah, the whole neoliberal environment just produced a lot of bullshit in the end (in the developed countries). But I don't think, fortunately, the reaction to neoliberalism is going to stymy creativity at all, I think many are ready to embrace a ne…

you cant reverse innovation it's like a genie in a bottle. which is great

SV is not a product of low interest rates though. it's the natural order of things

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You still have to maintain the domain, and stay on the hook if the site gets overtaken/hacked/defaced.

I know that web security is a hard problem but I can't wrap my head around the fact that static content has the same issue as a Wordpress blog.

That’s correct.

Only skip-a-heartbeat moment was when aws sent me an email saying that you I have “one or more S3 buckets that allow read or write access from any user on the Internet”

But none of my containers had write access. All of them had public read, but yeah, it’s a website and they know this: their own route53 DNS points to the containers.

They just sent the same generic mass email to everyone with any public container.

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Silicon Valley predates low interest rates by decades, and the tsunami of money it generates helped to create an environment where low interest rates for long periods were even possible

This doesn't make sense to me. Low interest rates are possible when inflation is not out of control. Don't you need a money sink instead of a money source to make low interest rates possible for long periods? In a way that could still be SV's doing though. Garbage companies like Juicero were able to absorb capital from the "real" economy to keep inflation from rising.

I did say tsunami of money but I should have said value. Value fountains are deflationary.

Juicero is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

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