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Re: Cloud Egress Costs

#181

The cost of egress traffic is a very good reason for many organizations to not fully migrate to a cloud provider anytime soon. And since, unlike with storage costs, there doesn't seem to be an actual reason (other than: it makes migrating to competitors cost-prohibitive in a subset of cases), that seems kind of... weird? Small example: an actual company I do some work for is in the business of delivering creative ass…

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Re: Cloud Egress Costs

#182
Related: is there something like https://diskprices.com for VPSes?

I have a storage-heavy egress-heavy app that I need to run that I am trying to find a cost effective VPS for (ideally in a specific region). Most VPSes have little storage and egress caps.

Re: Cloud Egress Costs

#184
I work in academia and Microsoft Azure doesn’t bill us egress up to 15% of the total bill [0].

Well, I still use Hetzner for the simpler needs because it’s much cheaper.

I wonder if the two other big cloud providers could also significantly reduce the egress fees when asked nicely.

[0]: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-egress-fee-waiv...

Re: Cloud Egress Costs

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post #160

The cost of egress traffic is a very good reason for many organizations to not fully migrate to a cloud provider anytime soon. And since, unlike with storage costs, there doesn't seem to be an actual reason (other than: it makes migrating to competitors cost-prohibitive in a subset of cases), that seems kind of... weird? Small example: an actual company I do some work for is in the business of delivering creative ass…

Our 20tb/m costs us $414... if you're saying that you can amortize those servers, rent the space and pay for upkeep for less than $4k a month? We have another service that has 20x the bandwidth, but it's a legacy GAE that has super cheap premium egress... But I'm told that AWS says that their pre-pay discount will be competitive in about a year, the rate that we're growing. The negotiated egress prices are much lower…

> If they're not worried about you jumping ship (you use a lot of their aws-native services), you can get a great deal.

Shouldn't it be the other way around? Why are they giving you are discount if you're not likely to jump?

Re: Cloud Egress Costs

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post #160

The cost of egress traffic is a very good reason for many organizations to not fully migrate to a cloud provider anytime soon. And since, unlike with storage costs, there doesn't seem to be an actual reason (other than: it makes migrating to competitors cost-prohibitive in a subset of cases), that seems kind of... weird? Small example: an actual company I do some work for is in the business of delivering creative ass…

Our 20tb/m costs us $414... if you're saying that you can amortize those servers, rent the space and pay for upkeep for less than $4k a month? We have another service that has 20x the bandwidth, but it's a legacy GAE that has super cheap premium egress... But I'm told that AWS says that their pre-pay discount will be competitive in about a year, the rate that we're growing. The negotiated egress prices are much lower…

I could buy a whole off lease fully deprcriated server and a year of colo with a gig link for under $4,000, yes. I would almost certainly see better performance than any cloud provider can give me too.

Re: Cloud Egress Costs

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Definitely lucrative enough. The use case you've described isn't particularly uncommon, but lots of companies just pay for the egress. The problem is that there are now multiple generations of software engineers that do not know how bandwidth is priced. They've only used managed providers that charge per unit of ingress/egress, at some fractional dollar per GB.

I’ve had people refuse to believe that bandwidth is actually very cheap and cloud markup is insane (hundreds or even thousands of times cost). I show them bare metal providers and colo that bills by size of pipe rather than transfer. They refuse to believe it or assume there must be a catch. There usually isn’t, though sometimes the very cheapest skimp on things like rich peering and can be slightly slower or less re…

> It’s a subset of a wider problem of multiple generations of developers being fully brainwashed by “cloud native” in lots of ways. What an amazing racket this all has been for providers…

No 1 believes they can do anything anymore. It's not just hosting and hardware either. Everything single thing becomes a SAAS that gets purchased and they all refuse to believe it can be done in-house.

> It’s just nuts.

It's exactly that. I've seen upper management in many companies value external solutions as more cost effective because if they had to do it internally it'd cost 2x as much.

Re: Cloud Egress Costs

#188
So let's assume also that their costs are dropping as well due to the deflationary nature of hardware costs. Seems like a pretty damn good business model to me. All they have to do now is get you hooked so you can't leave.

Re: Cloud Egress Costs

#189
The recommended way to do egress from AWS is through Cloudfront, which provides 1TB of free egress instead of 100GB as stated in the chart.

Regardless, I feel like AWS is price gouging for egress.

Re: Cloud Egress Costs

#190
post #149

I'm curious what people would estimate is an actual reasonable cost for egress? As in, what it costs to provide that service plus a sensible margin? It seems to me that eventually it will come to pass that competition regulators start to look at this. For now there's enough of an appearance of healthy competition that they probably aren't interested. But below the surface what they should be understanding is that the…

fly.io has an article in which they (very transparently) say that they mark it up 3x, which means that Vultr/DigitalOcean’s 1c/gb is likely very close to the true cost

https://fly.io/blog/we-cut-bandwidth-prices-go-nuts/

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