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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Bard? Gemini? Gemini Advanced? Gemini Ultra? Ultra 1.0? I guess they haven't figured out naming yet. This has got to be the most confusing naming since the xbox series x.

Reminds me of the naming madness of the Google messaging services/social media.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As expected, I asked the same questions to perplexity.ai, and it gave a correct response, just with a minor disclaimer at the end explaining the risks.

It's not even funny how much better perplexity.ai is than everyone else

Is it better than GPT-4?

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#183
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Proof of Gemini cheating: https://i.imgur.com/eYJDFjS.png Answer about cherries falling from the sky... (there is no question or context beforehand, this is the first question of the chat)

That's a bummer. I just made this one up which GPT-4 failed and Gemini got right but definitely need to do more testing to see what's being taken from online and what is actual reasoning. https://i.imgur.com/3sNr3LW.png https://i.imgur.com/EIj0nZg.png Edit: When I did your prompt it got it right on the first try fwiwi https://i.imgur.com/E3zYEca.png

I tried through API with latest GPT-4-Turbo-Preview and this is what I got:

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Let's break down the information given:

The school is two blocks north of the pool. This means if you are at the pool and move two blocks north, you'll arrive at the school.

The convenience store is one block south of the school. Therefore, if you start at the school and move one block south, you'll reach the convenience store.

Based on the first two statements, the relative positions from north to south are: School, Convenience Store, Pool.

Thus, the third statement saying "The pool is south of the convenience store" is indeed true, based on the positions provided by the first two statements.

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But it starts weirdly messing up, when I asked it to explain it using coordinates.

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Let's use a simple coordinate system to represent the positions of the school, the pool, and the convenience store. Let's assume each block corresponds to one unit in this system. We'll start with the pool as our reference point at coordinates (0,0). Remember, moving north increases the y-coordinate, while moving south decreases it.

The school is two blocks north of the pool. If the pool is at (0,0), moving two blocks north puts the school at (0, +2).

The convenience store is one block south of the school.

If the school is at (0, +2), moving one block south puts the convenience store at (0, +1).

Given these positions:

The pool is at (0, 0).

The school is at (0, +2).

The convenience store is at (0, +1).

Therefore, instead of the pool being south of the convenience store, the pool is actually located to the north of the convenience store if you consider "north" to mean increasing y-coordinates. The convenience store, being at (0, +1), is southward relative to the school but not to the pool. The pool, being at the origin point (0,0), is south of both the school and the convenience store in terms of their y-coordinates. Thus, the third statement, "The pool is south of the convenience store," is false according to the given coordinates.

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It gets coordinates and everything right, but still somehow messes up North and South.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#184

Bard? Gemini? Gemini Advanced? Gemini Ultra? Ultra 1.0? I guess they haven't figured out naming yet. This has got to be the most confusing naming since the xbox series x.

From one of the earlier announcements Google has made: - Bard is that talkative text interface, a product. - Gemini is the LLM design that currently backs Bard (but also other Google AI products). - Gemini "Basic", Advanced and Ultra are different sizes of that design. This is conjecture, but "Ultra 1.0" probably indicates that they intend to release more models based on the Ultra configuration. Since that's the most…

> To reflect this, Bard will now simply be known as Gemini.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#185

Bard? Gemini? Gemini Advanced? Gemini Ultra? Ultra 1.0? I guess they haven't figured out naming yet. This has got to be the most confusing naming since the xbox series x.

I think that’s a side effect of each time they release a version to compete with ChatGPT and it’s not as good so they have to at the same time announce a few version that is suppose to be better than ChatGPT and each time it’s not overall so they have to announce a new version. Think this will continues for a while especially since non OpenAI companies have access to much less free data troves than they did not that everyone realizes how valuable that data is. But that even aside other companies even Microsoft in my opinion with full chatgpt access implement it much more poorly . I imagine Apple will suffer a similar fate for a while.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#188

Bard? Gemini? Gemini Advanced? Gemini Ultra? Ultra 1.0? I guess they haven't figured out naming yet. This has got to be the most confusing naming since the xbox series x.

From one of the earlier announcements Google has made: - Bard is that talkative text interface, a product. - Gemini is the LLM design that currently backs Bard (but also other Google AI products). - Gemini "Basic", Advanced and Ultra are different sizes of that design. This is conjecture, but "Ultra 1.0" probably indicates that they intend to release more models based on the Ultra configuration. Since that's the most…

No no, they renamed Bard to Gemini and Gemini Ultra to Ultra 1.0.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#189

I heavily use Chat GPT's API in my day job, as it is the core of our business (Ai-powered startup). When Gemini Pro launched, me and my team tested it in the same day for our product, but we where disappointed as it is was a bit worse than gpt 3.5 (at least in the same prompts that we already had). I really hope that Gemini Ultra surpass gpt4, it is always exciting to see and use new advanced tech, but I'm still a li…

Be wary of any tech product named "Gemini", usually means they are self-acknowledging the need to play catch-up, a la the Gemini space program. I bet Google's next big AI release is going to be called "Apollo".

Just waiting for Space-Shuttle-120B-DPO-LASER-GGUF

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#190
post #97

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

Proof of Gemini cheating: https://i.imgur.com/eYJDFjS.png Answer about cherries falling from the sky... (there is no question or context beforehand, this is the first question of the chat)

I'm confused on how this is "cheating" isn't it just getting the answer wrong?
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