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Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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Post by sota4077 »

tomcam wrote: post #154
sublinear wrote: post #86

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I had the same reaction 20 years ago to Kingdom Hearts. Disney is definitely at risk of becoming irrelevant with their stale IP.

At risk? They haven’t had hit movie for years. They have destroyed just about everything they’ve touched, from Indiana Jones to Star Wars to Snow White.

Well this is just straight up false. Moana was a massive success. Frozen is a monstrous success for them. Star Wars not being a success is objectively false. The Force Awakens is the second best selling Star Wars movie of all time.

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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Post by Benjamin_Dobell »

tomcam wrote: post #154
sublinear wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same reaction 20 years ago to Kingdom Hearts. Disney is definitely at risk of becoming irrelevant with their stale IP.

At risk? They haven’t had hit movie for years. They have destroyed just about everything they’ve touched, from Indiana Jones to Star Wars to Snow White.

Frozen is one of the newest entries out of any media franchise to gross more than $10B — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media.... More than Fortnite has grossed. Not too shabby.

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

duxup wrote: post #173
sublinear wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same reaction 20 years ago to Kingdom Hearts. Disney is definitely at risk of becoming irrelevant with their stale IP.

I was a bit mystified by the appeal of kingdom of hearts too… but the fans I knew loved it so they must have done something right.

I’m not a disney fan but I enjoyed those games. They’re just good action RPGs with fresh advancement bonuses. Very Square Enix, which makes sense, of course.

KH3 also made me realize that they can start to target child and adult fans via recently popular titles (e.g. Frozen) and ~30 years ago popular titles (e.g. Toy Story), respectively.

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

tombert wrote: post #116
ethbr1 wrote: post #108

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Some people like goofy mashup fun. There's a ton of people who apparently really liked Kingdom Hearts. It's pretty elitist to consider some IP too sacred to remix.

I only played Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 on the Playstation 2 as a teenager, and I did enjoy them while playing, but I have to admit that I have absolutely no idea what the hell happened story-wise by the end of the second game. The story just got increasingly convoluted and harder to follow, and the juxtaposition of serious Final Fantasy characters and Disney characters never really stopped being funny to me.

100% agreed on the story. There’s a recap video that’s probably not too hard to find on youtube which takes 30 minutes to explain the story up to the start of KH3 and I remember a predictable amount of it. There’s also this gem: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fCWjSOSWiUw

I only know enough about what “Aqua got ‘Norted” means to put an apostrophe in front of ‘Norted. (Xehanort possesses people or whatever.) I also literally never saw Aqua in any game I played before KH3, except maybe as an extra I didn’t notice.

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Post by chrismcb »

Benjamin_Dobell wrote: post #182
tomcam wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At risk? They haven’t had hit movie for years. They have destroyed just about everything they’ve touched, from Indiana Jones to Star Wars to Snow White.

Frozen is one of the newest entries out of any media franchise to gross more than $10B — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media... . More than Fortnite has grossed. Not too shabby.

Frozen came out ten years ago and frozen 2 came out five years ago. I think that qualifies as a few years. Granted life has been tough on the movies since some odd event in 2020

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Post by maerF0x0 »

SLHamlet wrote: post #97

It's the mass market on-ramp the Metaverse needs. https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2024/02/disney-epic-interoperable-... Roblox should start sweating. Then again, so should anyone who's created Disney-themed fan content on Rec Room, VRChat, etc.

IDK if I agree. Disney wants to sell you a mickey tshirt on every platform so you have to buy N of them.

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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Post by chrismcb »

sota4077 wrote: post #181
tomcam wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At risk? They haven’t had hit movie for years. They have destroyed just about everything they’ve touched, from Indiana Jones to Star Wars to Snow White.

Well this is just straight up false. Moana was a massive success. Frozen is a monstrous success for them. Star Wars not being a success is objectively false. The Force Awakens is the second best selling Star Wars movie of all time.

Moana came out almost 8 years ago! The force awakens is even older. I think you are proving the OPs point.

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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Post by chrismcb »

michael_nielsen wrote: post #180
tomcam wrote: post #154

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At risk? They haven’t had hit movie for years. They have destroyed just about everything they’ve touched, from Indiana Jones to Star Wars to Snow White.

I flagged this - it seems too clearly flame bait. If it was an honest mistake, my apologies. Disney had three movies in 2023 which took more than $200 million at the US box office

And how much did those movies cost to make? I think the movies you are referring to were expecting to make 500m or more. They needed to make about 500 to break even! Disney said have some successes last year. But they aren't as impressive as you might think

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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Post by jasomill »

Benjamin_Dobell wrote: post #182
tomcam wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At risk? They haven’t had hit movie for years. They have destroyed just about everything they’ve touched, from Indiana Jones to Star Wars to Snow White.

Frozen is one of the newest entries out of any media franchise to gross more than $10B — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media... . More than Fortnite has grossed. Not too shabby.

According to that page, Frozen merchandise alone has grossed nearly as much in ten years as the entire Star Trek franchise in almost sixty.

Presumably not adjusted for inflation, but still impressive.

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