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Similarly, Hyundai building $8bn battery plant outside Savannah, Georgia: https://apnews.com/article/hyundai-georgia-electric-vehicle-...
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/commit...
Not to mention spending a lot on lobbying against clean air regulations aroun the world https://thedriven.io/2023/05/11/toyota-under-fire-for-anti-c...
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Toyota has probably shipped more battery capacity in hybrid cars than most EV manufacturers to date. They don't need to catch up to anything.
5 million prius * 14 kWhr 5 million tesla * 50 kWhr This is probably true, hybrids may win in the US market in the short term until they are outlawed?
In the US? When hell freezes over. In the Nederlands? Probably in 5-6 years.
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This might be true cumulatively but certainly isn't true on an annual basis anymore. If Toyota were shipping the same battery capacity as Tesla they could make every car they sell globally a hybrid or plug-in hybrid and they are at about 30% of that.
You are assuming that 100% of Toyota customers want to buy EV vehicles.
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You aren't more environmentally friendly, in less than 2 years an EV is net positive https://www.tesla.com/impact (see page 22) And that's not even mentioning that in 20 years we won't be mining materials out of the ground anymore, will just be recycling existing battery materials
OP continuing to drive a 20-year-old car (of any kind, not just a hybrid) is likely more environmentally friendly than buying a new car every few years. They're doing the reduce part of "reduce, reuse, recycle." A long-lasting, low-maintenance hybrid has a good argument for being very environmentally friendly.
I was wondering how the manufacturers address the potential culture conflicts. Obama's documentary American Factory revealed two notable contentions. One is that American workers think that the management is too tough on them while the management think that the workers are too unreasonable. The other is that Chinese workers are 30% (or 2X?) more efficient than American workers. I have no judgement on the first conten…
> The other is that Chinese workers are 30% (or 2X?) more efficient than American workers. What metrics is this based on?
On the bright side, some manufacturing jobs brought state side. On the other hand, it’s in KY. These multibillion dollar deals tend to land in states with the lowest cost of living, non-educated workforce, minimal enforcement/respect of environment (dump waste into rivers), and tend to be subsidized at the state and local levels. Apple opened up shop outside of Austin (ie, not Travis County) because of lower taxes an…
Similarly, Hyundai building $8bn battery plant outside Savannah, Georgia: https://apnews.com/article/hyundai-georgia-electric-vehicle-...
Its because the south is fairly young and impoverished, so cheaper to mfg there. Down vote, but that's the reason.
It's more likely that southern states are willing to throw huge incentive packages to these manufacturers. Probably not so much on the coasts or the northern states.
Also, unions are less common in the south; those states tend to be right-to-work states.
Finally, you used the word "impoverished", which is ridiculous. But wages are lower in the south so that is probably another reason.
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Execution like the wheels falling off their flagship all-ev car? After they've been making cars for 85+ years. https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/wheels-falling... https://www.motortrend.com/news/toyotas-fix-bz4x-disconnecti... That doesn't get the headlines and attenion that a icon enlargement software update on Tesla does on HN.
Teslas Have a Minor Issue Where the Wheels Fly Off While Driving, Documents Show - https://futurism.com/tesla-flaws-failures-blame-drivers It's really easy to cherry pick problems when someone makes millions of cars every year.
Wheels are actually designed to fall off in an accident.
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What about Toyota's plans makes you think they will ever catch up to everyone else with EVs?
Easy to catch up when EV market is shrinking. Toyota is right, gas hybrids are the future. Awesome range, you don't have to own a home to charge one, no problems in cold weather.
IMO hybrids could have a lot of life as a stopgap, but full EVs are pretty clearly where things are going. We've got chargers being installed (Tesla 4th Gen) that can charge at 600kW. Cars can't handle that yet, but the current 800V platforms are getting closer. Once you can get the better part of a full charge in less than 10 minutes, it's not really less convenient than stopping for gas on a trip. And as more people get EVs (and even PHEVs), more buildings will be equipped with charging. Even a regular 120V outlet is fine for most people for day to day overnight charging - especially if they can get a quick top-up to near full at a supercharger when needed.
Summary: hybrids are great for a lot of people right now and in the near future. In the medium to far future, EVs are going to be superior in, I think, all relevant metrics^. (Even cost, as batteries will get cheaper, while the cost of added hybrid components will stay roughly flat.)
^Well, except weight and sound, specifically thinking of sports cars. I'd be a lot more excited about the new electrified Porsche 718 (Cayman/Boxster) platform if it were hybrid instead of full electric, for those reasons. Not super relevant for commuter cars though.