Not sure what I think about charging people to remove this information—are they not also just as bad? This seems like the sort of thing that shouldn't require a victim to pay for, but for law to enforce this not happening. As with for-profit healthcare in the USA, just seems scumbag to profit off of misfortune and misery.
In fairness, Mozilla can't make a law.
Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers
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Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is a possibility. Another scenario is one in which you sign up to a service like Optery and submit a non-existent individual with fabricated information for PII removal; after about a month or so, this fabricated individual started showing up as a possible person that lived at my address when I was trying to get a quote from Progressive. So, seems like somewhere in the midst of this process, one of the 240 broke…
Thanks so much for sharing this, I was wondering what would happen if I tried this. I guess this basically tells me to be weary of such services. Great info. P.S. Just a heads up that you may have basically revealed your address by sharing those fake names (though I haven't tried to search), unless you also made up those names just now for illustration...
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You're assuming they are driven by a business opportunity; I have no evidence of their motives (do you?), but another way to see it: There is no law and no prospect of one soon. Mozilla can partially solve the problem by providing the service - I think that's great. Otherwise people would have less recourse. And also, Mozilla must have money to operate; charging for this service seems among the least-bad options.
Well, we arrive at the whole "the optimal amount of fraud is non-zero" train of thought, otherwise there is no money-making opportunity. They push on the legal aspects of other problems, but I don't see them pushing on the legal aspects of this. Mozilla receives half a billion dollars per year from Google, making up most of their revenue. Mozilla's CEO is also paid millions of dollars each year. If they can't survive…
So? Do doctors want you to have cancer? Do undertakers want you to die? Yet they still get paid.
> They push on the legal aspects of other problems, but I don't see them pushing on the legal aspects of this.
That's not persuasive, unless you are in that business. Where is a list of the things they do?
> If they can't survive as-is whilst paying out those kinds of salaries with such revenue, that's a management problem.
While I don't like the CEO's pay, competitors have far greater budgets - and pay CEOs far more - as do many businesses. The amount itself isn't evidence. Where is the evidence that Mozilla isn't allocating funds well?
Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers
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Anyone have experience comparing this to Incogni? I’ve been an unaffiliated user for over a year now. While many brokers have replied, many never seem to.
Optery founder here. We did a deep dive comparison between Incogni and Optery ( https://www.optery.com/incogni-review/ ). The biggest takeaway is Incogni, at this time, does not cover many of the most popular people search sites like Whitepages, TruePeopleSearch, Spokeo, RocketReach, ThatsThem, BeenVerified, TruthFinder, InstantCheckmate, and many others. Most Incogni reviews you'll find online are written by their a…
Your documentation says:
"You can only select one email and one phone number for scans at this time. However, Optery's engineering team is actively working on providing more configuration options such as the ability to run scans on demand for multiple email addresses and phone numbers."
Any comments on when this will be an option? I would want automatic scans on all of my emails and phone numbers. Not very useful for me without this.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're likely starting with the US because either their partner(s) for this is US only and/or it's easier to start with a single large market. The US is about a 50% larger market in terms of GDP than all EU countries combined.
That is correct, and it's way more of a problem in the US (but also e.g. in Brazil). Also: are you the JohnTHaller of PortableApps fame? If so: thanks for making my high school computer usage bearable, way back when!
Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
Optery founder here. We did a deep dive comparison between Incogni and Optery ( https://www.optery.com/incogni-review/ ). The biggest takeaway is Incogni, at this time, does not cover many of the most popular people search sites like Whitepages, TruePeopleSearch, Spokeo, RocketReach, ThatsThem, BeenVerified, TruthFinder, InstantCheckmate, and many others. Most Incogni reviews you'll find online are written by their a…
beyondd, I've been reading through this thread and your comments about Optery and you got me to sign up for an account on your site vs Mozilla's service so good job. I was even going to pay for your Ultimate plan for a year. But.... you lost me when I got to the profile page. I have a handful of email addresses and a couple of phone numbers. I would want them all to be scanned for. I had previously been using experia…
That said, Optery recursively searches through data exposed by data brokers to alleviate the need to input numerous old phones and emails by the customer. In PCMag.com review they said this of Optery's recursive phone number search functionality:
"It uses data found in data broker profiles to recursively expand its reach. For example, in my latest testing, I only gave it my current phone number, but it found records associated with an old number that I used for some 25 years."
Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers
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beyondd, I've been reading through this thread and your comments about Optery and you got me to sign up for an account on your site vs Mozilla's service so good job. I was even going to pay for your Ultimate plan for a year. But.... you lost me when I got to the profile page. I have a handful of email addresses and a couple of phone numbers. I would want them all to be scanned for. I had previously been using experia…
The core of Optery's search functionality is "person" centric. Meaning we start with searches by name, city, state, and age to find "you" regardless of which underlying email or phone number the data broker has on record for you. Because in many cases data brokers may have no email or phone on file for you at all (only home address), or they may have a really old phone or email you have forgotten about. When data rem…
I get what you're saying about how emails aren't the primary means of finding people, but it is a way, and something people often do have more then one of. I'd humbly request you reconsider and try to better incorporate support for automated scans on multiple emails/phones into the main product. For what its worth it looks like Mozilla's product supports 5 based on their docs.
That said, after submitting this comment I'm going to go ahead and sign up for the one year ultimate anyway in hopes that you will reconsider my request if I'm a paid user. :)
Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers
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It’s an ok way to do it. And I’ve been subscribed (but not using it) for 2 years. But until Firefox Relay supports custom domains, I am of the opinion that it’s not ideal.
With providers like Addy and SimpleLogin it is possible to use your own domain. > https://addy.io/ > https://simplelogin.io/
I want with Addy over others because plans are per badwidth used instead of per alias, so one-time email verifications for some signup doesn't count towards a total limit.
Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers
#189Do any of these offer family plans? I feel like At these price points, I would really like to sign up everyone in my household. The FAQ pages seem to all imply individual and I don't think I'm asking for a "business" or "enterprise" option.
Optery offers a family plan: https://www.optery.com/family/
Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
The core of Optery's search functionality is "person" centric. Meaning we start with searches by name, city, state, and age to find "you" regardless of which underlying email or phone number the data broker has on record for you. Because in many cases data brokers may have no email or phone on file for you at all (only home address), or they may have a really old phone or email you have forgotten about. When data rem…
Thank you for the reply! I suppose that does make sense, though it still doesn't give a warm fuzzy feel separating the functionality. While the average human might only have one email address they use, I'd venture to say people who would want a service such as this would skew more towards having many they use for privacy reasons. I get what you're saying about how emails aren't the primary means of finding people, bu…
Also, you mentioned using Experian's data removal service previously. Do you mind me asking how many exposed profiles the Optery scan located that Experian missed?