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Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by kouteiheika »

OJFord wrote: post #43
subtra3t wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the issue of inferior SRS algorithm is at least partly alleviated by the existence of FSRS.

... https://github.com/open-spaced-repetition/fsrs4anki/wiki/The... ... I'm not sure I believe we understand our own learning/memory anything like enough for this not to be total pseudoscience? Reminds me of A Beautiful Mind .

It doesn't matter whether this actually models how memory works in reality, as long as it has actual predictive capabilities which correlate to how it works in practice.

And this can be easily verified with data and simulations. The algorithm predicts how likely it is that you'll remember a given piece of information (e.g. in three days you'll remember this card with 80% probability), so if you can get a big dataset of reviews and run it through the algorithm you can easily check how accurate it is, e.g by calculating a brier score, or by comparing predicted vs actual recall curves.

Source: I've developed an even better algorithm than FSRS (I've directly compared them in the past, although that was quite a while ago so it might have been for one of the older versions of FSRS, so I'm not sure how the newest one compares), and now I'm working on an even better one.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by torbengee »

packetlost wrote: post #171
_teyd wrote: post #32

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I swear I have read this exact same comment before Edit: oh good I’m not crazy - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38428309

That's super weird, I wonder if GP just copy-pasted it or if there's some other weird automated business going on.

We'll find out in a year ... boy should be 12 by then.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by kazinator »

sivers wrote: post #18

My boy is 11 now. We've used Anki with him every day since he was about 5. Examples of things he's memorized, for fun: * every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map * spelling * many body parts, names of bones and organs, from illustration * chemical elements, by symbol (Na, Fe, Zn, etc) * unix filesystem commands * numeracy references (km from here to Japan, earth to sun, meters from home to school) * re…

Most of these things don't require Anki. It's a tedious waste of time.

> every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map

That's a stupid thing to memorize, not to mention constantly churning due to political instability.

You really need to gatekeep what you stuff into your noggin.

Most educated people could recognize certain countries by shape, like Italy, Africa, USA. But every country? Come on ...

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by queuebert »

siddbudd wrote: post #41

For all you people who have used Anki or other SRS for many years: how do you get over the problem of being bored by it? Or does that not happen to you? Though I have not used Anki, I used a similar SRS for learning Chinese - the flashcards built in Pleco, but no matter how often I try to use it, I never last longer than 5-10 days, I just get bored by it. Also, no matter how I try to adjust the algo, I have the feeli…

I love Pleco, especially the OCR, but I had the same experience. Learning from flash cards is boring to me and, no matter how well I drill it, I eventually forget the material. Probably it works better for people who will be using Mandarin/HSK vocabulary in the near future and for a long duration.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by heyoni »

tyrust wrote: post #158
redcobra762 wrote: post #156

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ChatGPT is great at taking my notes and turning them into Anki cards. Some tweaks are occasionally needed, but I have done well on numerous exams letting ChatGPT figure out the cards (and the formatting tedium) for me.

This is the opposite of what the commenter is suggesting.

If you’re modifying the cards to fit your needs and ChatGPT is basing them off of your personal notes then I’m not sure you understood the commenters suggestion you’re referring to.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by mderazon »

I have weekly Portuguese classes in Skype. During the lesson, when there's a word I don't know, the teacher explains and writes it in the chat.

After each class, I take these words and put them in Anki. However, I feel that this is not a great system, a lot of times I need the context of the conversation, the word needs to be in a sentence or sometimes I would prefer the reverse card (English and Portuguese on the back)

Any recommendations for using Anki for learning languages that is not the basic word-translation pair ? I thought about incorporating Chatgpt in the process, and dump the chat history but I am not sure what would be a good system.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by ametrau »

redcobra762 wrote: post #156
SamPatt wrote: post #70

One tip for working with Anki: you will likely learn better - and review cards more regularly - if you write the cards yourself instead of using a preexisting deck. Going through a course / textbook -> taking notes on paper -> adding key concepts as Anki flashcards -> reviewing them daily: extremely effective Preexisting decks can work - I used one to successfully study for my Amateur Radio License - but that assumes…

ChatGPT is great at taking my notes and turning them into Anki cards. Some tweaks are occasionally needed, but I have done well on numerous exams letting ChatGPT figure out the cards (and the formatting tedium) for me.

Time to write card: x. Number of times review card: x * big number.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by ants_everywhere »

OJFord wrote: post #38
jpalomaki wrote: post #8

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At least for me this often means, that I just keep on lookin up the stuff over and over again. Takes some deliberate effort to actually store some obscure things in my memory. When I was still active with Anki, I was mostly picking up some random things I knew I would need fairly often and included those in my deck.

But that means you're doing tar flag flashcards more often than you're using those tar flags? Because otherwise, and for me, the CLI usage is the flashcard? Using them is what teaches me and keeps fresh the commands and flags that I most often use.

This is the issue I've found with SRS style memorization in general. It's basically the definition of overfitting.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by marvel_boy »

mderazon wrote: post #186

I have weekly Portuguese classes in Skype. During the lesson, when there's a word I don't know, the teacher explains and writes it in the chat. After each class, I take these words and put them in Anki. However, I feel that this is not a great system, a lot of times I need the context of the conversation, the word needs to be in a sentence or sometimes I would prefer the reverse card (English and Portuguese on the ba…

Yes, just writing down the word-translation pair is not useful at all. To add a little context helps, for example use app , like Linguee or similar ,that adds phrases when then context makes sense.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by wodenokoto »

mderazon wrote: post #186

I have weekly Portuguese classes in Skype. During the lesson, when there's a word I don't know, the teacher explains and writes it in the chat. After each class, I take these words and put them in Anki. However, I feel that this is not a great system, a lot of times I need the context of the conversation, the word needs to be in a sentence or sometimes I would prefer the reverse card (English and Portuguese on the ba…

You can ask Anki to also generate reverse cards.

But yes, word only cards are good in the beginning when you are learning only the most basic nouns and verbs but you quickly need sentences.

I’m sure there are plenty of online dictionary services which can do some sort of Portuguese sentence search for you.

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