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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by SushiHippie »

lucb1e wrote: post #54
sphars wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it is unmaintained now due to the API changes, Libreddit (reddit frontend) is still working for me. Granted, I self-host it, and I'm the only user so I never hit the rate limit, but no issues at all, save for some of the changes reddit has made (namely the new share links)

The repository says at the top in a HUGE FONT that "Libreddit is currently not operational" and the website just shows a oneliner saying Germans are not allowed to read that page. The issue tracker talks of forking and stuff. Doesn't feel too welcoming or functional. But in actuality it works just fine? Is the message simply wrong when you plug in your own api key and stay in the free tier of reddit's API?

> and the website just shows a oneliner saying Germans are not allowed to read that page.

Curious which website do you mean? The official instance is not online anymore. And I'm not aware of an official libreddit website.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by amatecha »

ryandrake wrote: post #124
yterdy wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are working through their grief, knowing that a utility that is essentially the modern postal service was sold to someone who is essentially the modern Hearst.

But Twitter is/was not a utility, not a “modern post office” not a “town square” (before someone tries to bring up that terrible analogy too) and really doesn’t deserve people’s grief. It’s yet another corporate-owned and controlled messaging app and we are seeing the inevitable result of that control.

Yeah, in 2008 when we signed up for it, we didn't realize the implications of that -- now we're learning, between Myspace, FB, and now Twitter. I made a LOT of connections on Twitter, a lot of meaningful interactions, and it absolutely had a large effect on my life. It's without a doubt one of the biggest disappointments to me in modern web/internet tech, that it has gradually been eroded into the trash it is now. Well, as I can say about so many things, "it was good while it lasted".

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by dinvlad »

throwup238 wrote: post #96
dinvlad wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've recently learned that Twitter can actually be quite good for building genuine connections online, but it takes a very conscious effort and a lot of diligence

I'm sure that could be said for Erowid or any number of sites with a discussion forum function.

I was cynical about X like that too, but recently learned some good techniques that make a lot of difference to the overall experience. And then there's really nothing like it, in terms of reach.

Also, it's easy to see bad in everything, and then all we see is bad. But there're good things to find as well, it's just a matter of what we focus on..

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by nateglims »

monero-xmr wrote: post #143
viraptor wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a challenge: find an article from either wapo or nyt which actually predicted a sure collapse. And I mean a collapse as you said rather than issues with operations. (which they had many of since the takeover) I may have missed one if it exists, but I'd bet they didn't publish anything that certain.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/business/media/twitter-us... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/technology/twitter-glitch... https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/10/opinion/elon-musk-twitter...

Other than a quote from a political activist, these don't seem that certain about a total collapse or even speculate it

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by yreg »

cubefox wrote: post #49

Websites like Quora, Instagram, TikTok, and now X, work against the idea of an open Web. Content is increasingly concentrated into separated silos. But I understand why it's happening: People who don't have an account can't receive personalized ads.

I don’t use TikTok much, but when I see a (web) link to content there it’s always publicly available.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by monero-xmr »

viraptor wrote: post #176
monero-xmr wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/business/media/twitter-us... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/technology/twitter-glitch... https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/10/opinion/elon-musk-twitter...

The first link is reporting about users panicking and one of the few comments from NYT itself is "Though there are no official signs that Twitter is going anywhere,...". The second documents actual issues and makes no predictions. Even the third one which is just an opinion piece about how bad of a decision maker Elon is doesn't come close to suggesting a collapse. Please read the actual articles.

For the “Newspaper of Record” to report such fantastical news stories, as if anecdotal reports and opinions are real news, shows the obsession with the left wing media against Twitter and their hope and vibe about its imminent collapse.

Why write such articles at all? It’s “The NYT never said it would collapse, they just reported numerous articles implying it MIGHT collapse and everyone says it will!” OK!

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by amatecha »

hexage1814 wrote: post #162
amatecha wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh yeah, I see it as inevitable. I'm blown away that YouTube is still accessible without an account. It's only a matter of time, though, I'd wager. I never thought Twitter would require an account to view its content.

It's not the same site, but it's the same company: one thing that caught my attention lately is those little messages nagging you whenever you access Google without being logged in. And... those sorta passive aggressive behavior always start like this. Like, "Oh, why don't you log in? It's good for you, log in!", and as the time passes that behavior just gets more and more hostile towards the user until you end up re…

Oh yeah, that's right! I've noticed those nag modals are filling over 1/3 of my screen! On all kinds of sites! So coercive and manipulative. I can see why some people just browse with JS disabled and just forget about sites that require it.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by tentacleuno »

Dalewyn wrote: post #23
neilv wrote: post #16

If all Nitter instances get shut down, that's another reason for people to stop putting information into the Twitter/X walled-garden. Nitter has had the effect of a pressure release valve, for the people who object most to Twitter/X. Without the Nitter compromise, more people will stop linking to Twitter/X threads, indulging people who still post there, etc.

I am quite sure the people who use Nitter or otherwise detest Mysterious Twitter X are a vocal minority of people.

I use Twitter, and I detest it. It's mostly spam.

This actually came up in a conversation yesterday, funnily enough: I'm mostly using Twitter because I'm curious as to how much worse it's going to get. So far, I've seen them allow NSFW paid-for advertisements, doxxing of well-known figures, daily crypto mention farming spam (with highly suspicious, easily-detectable patterns, spread across ~10 accounts per day), obvious engagement bait to benefit from ad-revenue sharing, fake interaction spam, and plenty more.

As an excerpt, the @support account on Twitter is completely dead, too -- if I remember correctly, the last reply to an issue was around August / June of last year. So clearly they don't have the staffing needed to support... well, the support, and they seem to have issues admitting that.

That becomes even more clear when you look at the spam on the platform: obvious spam patterns are completely ignored, with reports going to the wayside, and crypto / NFT spam being left up to victimize someone who doesn't know what it really is. It's quite grotesque.

Even though a lot of people may use the platform, quite a substantial amount of people also speak out about how much worse Twitter has got since the acquisition -- while I have nothing against Elon Musk, I find it quite amazing how badly the platform seems to be doing ever since he's been at the helm.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by ipaddr »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #90
s1artibartfast wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not make an account if you want to read it?

Having to make an account to read a website sounds idiotic. Why should twitter be special in that regard? It's not so you're essentially promoting the idea that we should have to make an account to read any website, which is idiotic.

Many places require an account, many even paid like New York Times but you have all other social media offering limited views to facebook, instagram, tiktok with signing in.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by ticos »

ryandrake wrote: post #124
yterdy wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are working through their grief, knowing that a utility that is essentially the modern postal service was sold to someone who is essentially the modern Hearst.

But Twitter is/was not a utility, not a “modern post office” not a “town square” (before someone tries to bring up that terrible analogy too) and really doesn’t deserve people’s grief. It’s yet another corporate-owned and controlled messaging app and we are seeing the inevitable result of that control.

Not really a utility, but it meant that someone at the parks and rec department with virtually zero computer skills could let everyone know when things were closed due to rain and when they were open again.
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