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Re: When America first dropped acid

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Post by widdershins » Tue, Jan 23, 2024, 12:37 PM UTC

zikzak wrote: post #156

opportune wrote: post #152

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This is such a great succinct summation of my feelings on “psychedelic culture” as someone who has actually participated. It drives me crazy when people act like psychedelics open a window into deep spiritual truths and that taking them makes you some how more enlightened. This culture is still pervasive - probably accounting for the majority of people who actively argue for decriminalization and research - and a bad…

Could not agree more. I have tripped countless times. But in the late 80s and early 90s. No hippies to be found. I did have some interesting revelations but nothing I wouldn't have come to via other means of conversation or introspection. For me, and most people I was doing this with, it was just an affordable, long lasting drug. Sure, I had read various books about opening the doors of perception but at some point y…

> Sure, I had read various books about opening the doors of perception but at some point you realize it's just more "you" that you are finding.

But that's what opening the doors of perception means. Of course you're "only" discovering things about yourself, but that is still valuable and I think that is what a lot of people find 'mystical' about these drugs.

I agree that shamanistic woo-woo doesn't do any good though.

Re: When America first dropped acid

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Post by RamblingCTO » Tue, Jan 23, 2024, 1:10 PM UTC

quchen wrote: post #45

RamblingCTO wrote: post #25

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Spores are illegal in Germany. But just buy a growkit from the Netherlands, if you're terminally ill in Germany, chances are that law enforcement won't even start processing before you're dead. PS: awesome tip!

> Spores are illegal in Germany So are growkits, but spores are easier to transport (in a syringe suspended in water, or on aluminium foil). Problem with growkits is that it takes a while to see whether you’ve got a good (or contaminated) one, and yield isn’t that high. Main options: - (Learning, qulity) Start from spores (syringe or dry): do this to learn a lot, and also to have something to eat afterwards. It was o…

Yeah I still have spores (ofc nothing legal ... :P) and will try the Uncle Ben's tek. Looks real easy. Thanks for the discussion! Would love to discuss more, but not on HN with my clear name attached to the profile haha.

Re: When America first dropped acid

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Post by 2devnull » Tue, Jan 23, 2024, 3:25 PM UTC

asveikau wrote: post #82

ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #13

Recently read a description of 1960's ideology. The claim being that its all propaganda, and what we know as 60s ideology (peace love etc) actually never really happened for a real duration of time. What did happen was that those that prescribed to that line of thinking either moved to communes, or they dropped so much acid they were societally irrelevant. There werent many people actually out and about that were pus…

I disagree, but ignoring this somewhat, I offer this: One remarkable thing is how the hippie stuff often induced by chemical manipulation of serotonin receptors mirrors a lot of religious messages. You can take slogans like "peace on earth, love your neighbor, love is all you need" and say, is that hippie stuff? Or is it, say... The message attributed to Jesus? In that sense, you don't really need the drugs or counte…

Hippies like many modern leftists are really puritans. They don’t know themselves as such, but this Puritanism you see in such “movements” is quintessentially American.

Re: When America first dropped acid

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Post by zoklet-enjoyer » Tue, Jan 23, 2024, 3:42 PM UTC

altairTF wrote: post #123

zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #75

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Metal hippies? Is that a thing? I'm more familiar with the 2010s hippy festival goers eating mushrooms and research chemicals while listening to a combination of jam bands and various electronic genres

Sorry, Nu metal. It was more in the sense of the hippie movement falling out of mainstream for good around the 00's, at least on my view of the world, of course

Oh, ok that makes sense.

Re: When America first dropped acid

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Post by throwaway_ls » Tue, Jan 23, 2024, 4:21 PM UTC

bowsamic wrote: post #134

throwaway_ls wrote: post #73

I was suffering from really bad loneliness and depression. I caught wind that friends I wasn't particularly close with were having an LSD retreat. I was raised that all 'hard' drugs were bad and potentially addictive. But I decided to join them and to try it. It turned out to be an transformative experience for me. And it wasn't from the LSD itself, the dose was too low to impact my brain in a lasting way. But it's h…

My experience was sadly the opposite and it greatly exacerbated my depression and invented the thought of suicide in my mind. It’s hard because there are many people online who get angry at any mention of negative outcomes, but I have to share my side of the story too. Thankfully it is slowly improving, but it has been quite a ride since then. Maybe exactly what I needed? But can’t say those 5 years weren’t absolute…

Thank you for sharing. For what it's worth I absolutely believe you. In the same way that people react different to being drunk and some will get happy and some will get angry, people will react differently to each substances. I think we're all wired differently and it changes how we responses to substances and even depression.

For what it's worth I've had bad trips. i.e. a sense of impending doom, demons etc... For some reason I found the experience interesting and positive. I can see why you did not.

Let me know if you'd like to connect and discuss your experience. I would enjoy listening.