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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_pigeon Passenger pigeons were hunted by Native Americans, but hunting intensified after the arrival of Europeans, particularly in the 19th century. Pigeon meat was commercialized as cheap food, resulting in hunting on a massive scale for many decades. There were several other factors contributing to the decline and subsequent extinction of the species, including shrinking of th…
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Another important candidate are shark fins. Not only are sharks of many kinds endangered, cutting of their fins and tossing the still living shark back in the ocean is especially cruel and wasteful. But considering that most fish species are endangered and basically all of them are contaminated by plastic, there is good reason to avoid seafood altogether. Unless perhaps if you know that it has been fished sustainably…
Ok sure I just mean of foods I might normally eat in normal life. I've never even had the option of declining shark fin soup.
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Maybe. Cod suddenly collapsed by like 98% but never went extinct.
Probably a dumb question but why hasn't cod rebound on the east coast? The fishing moratorium has been in place for decades now, shouldn't the population have increased exponentially since then?
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I've always heard predatory species like tuna cannot be farmed, but my knowledge may be outdated
I thought the same, but it looks like there was a breakthrough relatively recently making it possible now: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/04/breeding...
> This article is more than 4 months old
In fact it came like ten years late. Probably more.
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I've always heard predatory species like tuna cannot be farmed, but my knowledge may be outdated
Most prized variety - the bluefin tuna - is now widely farmed already (although farmed one still makes a very small proportion of tuna consumed). But it's possible and is already viable commercially.
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>That is something that can be done at a local level without global cooperation. You're assuming some foreign operator won't come to your local waters to illegally fish. China has shown they will fish literally anywhere they can get away with it. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/ch...
I know China-bashing is popular on this website, but a quite search of market data reveals that China isn't even in the top 10 of tuna producers NOR consumers. Basic economics would suggest that a country with low nominal GDP/capita would not be the final destination for a global commodity (with relatively high production cost) like deep sea fish. Given that your production site is in the Pacific Ocean, why would you…
To be in that rank, a country would need first to declare the real number of the captures officially.
But it does not really matter. Is all about collateral effects.
"we catch only herrings and respect the Tuna (liar, liar, fins on fire), so why 9 of each 10 tuna in the planet vanished?".
Hem... Are we talking about the herring-eating tuna?"
Tuna are Megafauna Humans deterministically deplete ingenious populations of megafauna to extinction The counter to this to date was megafauna herding via property boundary permanence. aka fencing for cattle So the only solution would be to figure out how to do ocean megafauna herding because reducing consumption is unlikely. Which would require massive scale 3 or 4 dimensional fencing. Sounds like a technical proble…
The solution you are describing is aquaculture aka fish farming. It already exists for many species.
That is a whole different kind of problem to farm than having a humdrum sub-mega fauna fish farm
Problems are more akin to trying to raise farm grown Elephants
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I know China-bashing is popular on this website, but a quite search of market data reveals that China isn't even in the top 10 of tuna producers NOR consumers. Basic economics would suggest that a country with low nominal GDP/capita would not be the final destination for a global commodity (with relatively high production cost) like deep sea fish. Given that your production site is in the Pacific Ocean, why would you…
> but a quite search of market data reveals that China isn't even in the top 10 of tuna producers NOR consumers. To be in that rank, a country would need first to declare the real number of the captures officially. But it does not really matter. Is all about collateral effects. "we catch only herrings and respect the Tuna (liar, liar, fins on fire), so why 9 of each 10 tuna in the planet vanished?". Hem... Are we tal…