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Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by agos »

b1n wrote: post #95
tipiirai wrote: post #46

This is an unbelievably unfinished UI library. Especially with a price tag. A limited set of components with very little attention to detail. For example, the buttons lack the active state completely. Why would I pay €250 for something I can find easily for free?

Complaints about TailwindCSS always remind me of this quote: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair, I, Candidate for Governor https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-ge...

that's a cheap way to dismiss every critic to something

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by moooo99 »

I've been a long time user of tailwind UI and bought the all in bundle two years ago. Especially with the education discount I was eligible back then (thank you to the creators for that!) the purchase was an absolute no-brainer for me.

However, with this specific template, I really don't get the economics. This appears to be the least finished template they have in their repository, yet it is the most expensive as a single purchase.

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by mplewis »

uxp8u61q wrote: post #162
andruby wrote: post #126

What's with all the negativity here on HN, especially about the pricing? The Tailwind team created one of the most used CSS frameworks ever and charge nothing for it. The framework needs a revenue stream to enable continued investment. Rails has basecamp. Bootstrap had twitter. React has meta. Tailwind has Tailwind UI. I find it great value. It's a one-off cost comparable to hiring a designer or front-end developer f…

> one of the most used CSS frameworks ever Any evidence for this claim?

I used to use Bootstrap. Now the only frameworks I ship anymore are Bulma and Tailwind.

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by ehutch79 »

hoofhearted wrote: post #175
uxp8u61q wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> one of the most used CSS frameworks ever Any evidence for this claim?

Tailwind and Hero Icons eclipsed Bootstrap and Font Awesome in NPM downloads a year or more ago.

Most people using bootstrap wern't getting it through npm. It was a script tag importing off a cdn.

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by uxp8u61q »

hoofhearted wrote: post #175
uxp8u61q wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> one of the most used CSS frameworks ever Any evidence for this claim?

Tailwind and Hero Icons eclipsed Bootstrap and Font Awesome in NPM downloads a year or more ago.

The claim is "one of the most used CSS frameworks ever", not "a CSS framework that has more downloads on npm than bootstrap."

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by hoofhearted »

hoofhearted wrote: post #175
uxp8u61q wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> one of the most used CSS frameworks ever Any evidence for this claim?

Tailwind and Hero Icons eclipsed Bootstrap and Font Awesome in NPM downloads a year or more ago.

I should mention that I did a study about 6 months ago for a government client, and successfully convinced them to migrate away from Bootstrap 4, Font Awesome, and an in-house patchwork of 10 years of different css styles, to Tailwind CSS and Hero Icons in their mission critical app.

It took many long brain dump sessions, and some help from the U.S. Digital Service and Tailwind themselves.

At the end of the day, Tailwind solved more problems for them than it created.

You wouldn’t think that moving from loading icons via css versus loading them via inline svg’s would make a huge difference; but I found that it can actually reduce a second or two of render time from a legacy and bloated code base.

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by hoofhearted »

ehutch79 wrote: post #184
hoofhearted wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tailwind and Hero Icons eclipsed Bootstrap and Font Awesome in NPM downloads a year or more ago.

Most people using bootstrap wern't getting it through npm. It was a script tag importing off a cdn.

ReactStrap is npm though.

That was the last time I used bootstrap about 2-3 years ago before going all in on Hero Icons, Headless-UI, and css design tokens and utility classes (Tailwind)

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by joshmanders »

tipiirai wrote: post #131
andruby wrote: post #126

What's with all the negativity here on HN, especially about the pricing? The Tailwind team created one of the most used CSS frameworks ever and charge nothing for it. The framework needs a revenue stream to enable continued investment. Rails has basecamp. Bootstrap had twitter. React has meta. Tailwind has Tailwind UI. I find it great value. It's a one-off cost comparable to hiring a designer or front-end developer f…

I think it's the surprisingly poor quality of Catalyst compared to their other products and also how limited it is considering the price.

> I think it's the surprisingly poor quality

It's also a friggen preview and uncompleted thing. They could have waited for the whole thing to be done and polished but everyone was barking at them "just release it I don't care if it's not done"

Judging by your previous comments, you're not even a customer of theirs and have very misguided views on the product and it's pricing.

I have a feeling you have a competing product and are just trying to drum up negativity about Tailwind.

edit:// yep, I just checked your history, you're the creator of that nue thingy that is trying to compete with next/astro/nuxt/tailwind/etc all at once.

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by joshmanders »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #180
b1n wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Complaints about TailwindCSS always remind me of this quote: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair, I, Candidate for Governor https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-ge...

I feel the same about people praising Tailwind. Tailwind (and similar, I tend to use https://unocss.dev/ ) is not good for your frontend architecture BUT they allow you to be so fast, that it negates the benefits. For a job well done, I'd follow the principles of https://maintainablecss.com/ For throwaway code I need to cram out as fast as I can, Tailwind it is. I understand agencies using Tailwind, or Bootstrap, the…

> For a job well done

What's the definition of a job well done? In my eyes it's completing the project and getting it out the door to customers to use. If Tailwind makes that happen, then isn't it a job well done?

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by herunan »

MrDresden wrote: post #177
JasonSage wrote: post #151

There's something I genuinely don't understand in discussions of price, which is that folks seem to want to ignore basic economics. Something is either worth it to you or it's not. If it is worth it, and you want it, you may buy it. If it's not, then you don't buy it. The world keeps spinning. The Tailwind folks seem to think this may be worth $150 to some people. Those people might buy it. If you think it's not wort…

Relevant to your point, this is a simple tool that takes the user through the evaluation of the financial value of their time. I have used this on occasion to figure out where it makes the most sense for me to exchange money for services. https://programs.clearerthinking.org/what_is_your_time_reall...

Awesome rec! This is the kind of thing I never knew I needed but where suddenly I ask myself where was it all this time. Thank you.
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