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Re: Welcome to the ad-free internet

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Post by vvvvvvvvvvvv »

kmlx wrote: post #172
Gareth321 wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're allowed to change the offering. They're not allowed to offer you one thing, but supply another. YouTube is currently testing their legal waters. They currently offer an "ad free" experience with the subscription of Premium. Despite this, they still serve: * In-feed ads. These include ads for content prominence (preferential placement for creators), articles with link-out, ads for Google products and services…

> Once the Digital Markets Act comes into effect in the EU in a couple of months I'll be installing alternative frontends for YouTube which include SponsorBlock. this is weird. are we sure this is a thing in the EU? because the idea of having some sort of regulation forcing a private company to have their product offered by some other party raises so many issues. it's not like youtube is some sort of public good, it'…

> I feel like I'm misunderstanding something...

In the EU it's ok to ask companies to do things, even if it costs them money.

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Post by cwales95 »

fastest963 wrote: post #42
alex_young wrote: post #21

Ad free internet costs ~$40 one time fee. Raspberry Pi + pihole dns.

Genuinely curious what you do when a site asks you to turn off your adblocker? PiHole doesn't have an option to whitelist an individual site like an extension does. Do you just leave the site or do you temporarily turn off PiHole?

You can whitelist domains.

What I do is toggle reader mode for that site if on mobile. That always bypasses it. I can also select the overlay on uBlock origin. If that doesn’t work I’ll disable JavaScript for the site since these popular need JavaScript. If all that fails I’ll simply not use the site.

Re: Welcome to the ad-free internet

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figassis wrote: post #108
zerbinxx wrote: post #24

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The solution, at least for me, is finding things/places, both on and off the computer, where you can avoid having your attention stolen and just focus on something you like. I think the ad-saturated parts of the world are one of those things that you don’t really need, you just get trapped by them if you open yourself up to being swayed by them. Nobody is in my kitchen trying to sell me shit when I’m cooking, nobody…

Eventually those places will be premium real estate for ads. Some one will find a way to bring ads to our kitchen or to mount fiji. Maybe they will fly planes overhead, or do crop circles, put put them in hiking trails.

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Post by marginalia_nu »

amadeuspagel wrote: post #132
Keegs wrote: post #6

This is nothing new but the article hits hard. I don’t want to live in a world where everyone is after my attention but a good chunk of the economy seems to depend on it. There has to be a better future than this?

You are, with or without ads. The web is a struggle for attention. No website can survive that doesn't addict you to check it again and again.

The route I've gone down is to build the quiet spaces on the web myself. Works decently well.

Re: Welcome to the ad-free internet

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Post by a3w »

bambax wrote: post #103
DeathArrow wrote: post #83

I benefit from ad free internet since the first ad blocker extension was made.

Same. It's a bit weird to write a whole article on ads on the Internet and not mention ad blocking once. I don't want to see ads, any ad, ever, and so far I'm succeeding, but I wonder how long this is going to last.

Although "cookie", more like terror, banners show the immense list of advertisers if you have a slight misconfiguration in your content blockers. And newspapers won't even load more than a paragraph without an explicit consent cookie, unless you pay for every site, usually monthly. But at least in germany, not automatically recurring: they don't actually want to sell subscriptions.

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Post by bregma »

zo1 wrote: post #143
zigman1 wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd even argue that internet, while it was seen as a counter-balance to the ad infected tv and radio space, has become WORST than watching a TV. If I want to show something on YT to my friend, and I don't know exactly which video is correct, well lots of luck to me to find it in first few tries, as EACH video I click on will first show me a two unskippable ads, no matter how short the video is

Something went wonky with ads in general and it may just be a coincidence that the internet happened at an overlapping time. I fondly remember memorable, interesting and funny ads. It's like shittification happened on the quality of ads, maybe they got lazy because they could just target a specific demographic, maybe it's all the incompetent and lazy gen-whatevers joining the workplace, or maybe we're all collectivel…

Maybe it's because the technology has progressed to the point where any idiot can make an ad, so now ads are made by idiots. It's not the first industry to be so affected.

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Post by Kbelicius »

amadeuspagel wrote: post #148
_pvxk wrote: post #113

https://www.datatilsynet.no/en/news/aktuelle-nyheter-2023/th... > the Norwegian Data Protection Authority strongly doubts that Meta's proposed ‘consent’ mechanism, often dubbed ‘pay or okay’, complies with the GDPR. The EDPB’s decision is therefore important to avoid Meta's infringement continuing while the company is exploring its options. https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/28/metas_eu_privacy_fee_... > noyb (None…

Is it illegal to charge money for a service in europe, or is it only illegal if you also offer an ad-supported free version?

As far as I understand it consent must be given freely. Currently facebook offers two options, either pay or consent to tracking. In this situation consent isn't given freely since the option to not give consent requires a monetary payment.

Re: Welcome to the ad-free internet

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Post by jacooper »

zigman1 wrote: post #145
Prickle wrote: post #123

The 5 minute airplane ad is nightmare fuel for me. How long until they kick up the brightness to wake you up. Imagine you are stuck in the window seat, forced to watch an ad you can't turn off? I am exaggerating obviously, but I do find it egregious that they would dare show more ads when ticket prices are already extremely high.

Question. Would you be okay with being shown an add if in turns your plane ticket price is noticeably cheaper?

Maybe, but that's not going to happen, they are going to have their cake and eat it too.
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