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Post by rglullis »

jongjong wrote: post #172
rglullis wrote: post #149

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Put aside the personality of Musk: - jacking up the price of the API - Removing chronological timeline completely , to the point that one can not simply get a list of one's tweets by going to their profile - his vision of the "everything app". - the "pay to play" aspect of the blue check. Are more than enough reason for me to want Twitter to fail. I do not want a social media that favors those who are paying, and I d…

My experience is that before Musk, I felt like I was shadow-banned. No engagement. Also, as a consumer, the content was basically the same junk as all other media platforms. Now I feel like I'm getting all the latest news and things are actually happening. Small interactions between regular people are taking place again. It's not just some centralized mainstream broadcast platform as it used to be. It's way better.

You got a big corporation on the same team as you. Doesn't make them the good guys or "better" in any way. The fundamental principles are all broken.

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Post by 77pt77 »

lucb1e wrote: post #75
burkaman wrote: post #74

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The creator's company website is also excluded: https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://neatnik.... . Maybe some philosophical disagreement?

Presumably due to https://neatnik.net/robots.txt

> User-agent: ia_archiver

> Disallow: /

Denied!

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by omginternets »

stevebmark wrote: post #170

It takes blog posts to discover these because Mastodon micro communities aren't discoverable and no one knows which ones to sign up for. Mastodon has no long term potential. We're still waiting for the Twitter replacement.

The reason they’re good has a lot to do with how hard they are to find.

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Post by alex_lav »

shusaku wrote: post #131

That’s a fun set of features, but I don’t see the connection with the community. You can browse their mastodon feed and it’s just a bunch of vaguely liberal vaguely tech posts? I’d like to see which accounts are using the services for a better community

I made an account and can’t seem to figure out where this magical community actually is? It seems like I can just link other open services? And for some reason I can receive email?

Not a single other person(‘s content) in sight though.

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Post by monkeywork »

footlose_3815 wrote: post #139
p4bl0 wrote: post #52

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If you have your own infrastructure to host all of these services then you're probably not the target audience. It's ok, it's my case too. But you have to admit that $20/year is quite cheap for all of what is provided here, without having to manage it all yourself, and with a "no trackers no bullshit" way of doing things. It's really the kind of services I don't need but would almost like to need! The last time I had…

Github pages is free. A .info domain is $5/year. That's already more than half the features you get with this, and you get to be on the actual internet, not some dude's silo. As the post's age goes on, I see more criticism, and less positive reactions.

>That's already more than half the features you get with this, and you get to be on the actual internet, not some dude's silo.

"the actual internet" ??

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Post by culopatin »

damiante wrote: post #65

I love the idea of such smaller communities and the "old web" style of interaction, but for me the issue is one of discoverability. How do I find and follow people? Does anyone still use RSS, or are we relying on Mastodon/ActivityPub? Bavk in the day this was the purpose of search engines, but it seems that now such small pages are scarcely even indexed...

How did we find forums back in the day? Someone said something somewhere and you looked it up. It was less discoverable but less… volatile, because it was just “your” kind of people there, not millions of random people who found a hashtag

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Post by ClimaxGravely »

inamberclad wrote: post #178
stevebmark wrote: post #170

It takes blog posts to discover these because Mastodon micro communities aren't discoverable and no one knows which ones to sign up for. Mastodon has no long term potential. We're still waiting for the Twitter replacement.

What is the long-term potential supposed to be? Is Mastodon supposed to replace Twitter, or is it supposed to enhance the lives of people? I'm a member of several small forums that just don't grow. It's the same people each day, and that's fine. It's much closer to how human interactions work in real life. You don't join an ever-expanding pool of people where you strive to maximize your connections (or at least, I do…

Even then I have a small fraction of the followers from twitter than I do on mastadon and I still get way more engagement. Both in numbers and quality. It's not oldschool forums quality but it feels a lot closer.

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Post by Novosell »

Always_Anon wrote: post #174
acdha wrote: post #146

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Where I grew up, that was called being polite and it didn’t automatically rule out anything other that liberalism. There’s a ton of room between disagreement and harassment.

>Where I grew up, that was called being polite and it didn’t automatically rule out anything other that liberalism. Where I grew up, that was called being polite and it didn’t automatically rule out anything other that conservatism. >There’s a ton of room between disagreement and harassment. There was a time where that may have been true, but we're far away from those times.

Mind you, he said liberalism and not liberal. Modern day conservatives tend to be very pro-capitalism, which liberalism loved.

Not sure when things got all turned around in America. Liberalism = smaller government and a free market. Yet in the US a "liberal" dislikes capitalism and wants more government? It's odd.

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Post by p-e-w »

inamberclad wrote: post #178
stevebmark wrote: post #170

It takes blog posts to discover these because Mastodon micro communities aren't discoverable and no one knows which ones to sign up for. Mastodon has no long term potential. We're still waiting for the Twitter replacement.

What is the long-term potential supposed to be? Is Mastodon supposed to replace Twitter, or is it supposed to enhance the lives of people? I'm a member of several small forums that just don't grow. It's the same people each day, and that's fine. It's much closer to how human interactions work in real life. You don't join an ever-expanding pool of people where you strive to maximize your connections (or at least, I do…

Well said. It's astonishing how much the corporate/capitalist mantra "if you're not growing, you're dying" has taken hold in the world of open source and free culture. People not only fail to realize how unsustainable and destructive that idea is, many don't even seem to know that alternative community models exist, and have been practiced since forever.

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Post by [deleted] »

p-e-w wrote: post #162
jim-jim-jim wrote: post #154

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That's the shortcoming of every alternative protocol and "indie web" community I've come across. They only attract existing techies and have a weird sheen of forced kindness about them. If you're just chatting with other programmers under American HR communication standards, then how is it any different to work? The true magic of the early web was somebody genius but decidedly untechnical like David Bowie shitposting…

> The true magic of the early web was somebody genius but decidedly untechnical like David Bowie shitposting at his own fans. No, the magic of the early web was that people treated their online identities as a secret alternative life, rather than a resume for recruiters, friends, potential partners, and other real-world acquaintances to look at. The Internet of today is little more than a (distorted) mirror of people…

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