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Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

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Google Bard is still not available in Canada.

Are there some regulatory reasons why it would not be available? It seems weird if Google would intentionally block users merely to block them.

Google and Facebook were, up until just a couple of days ago, in a cold war within the Canadian government.

Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

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Andrej Karpathy's take: New open weights LLM from @MistralAI params.json: - hidden_dim / dim = 14336/4096 => 3.5X MLP expand - n_heads / n_kv_heads = 32/8 => 4X multiquery - "moe" => mixture of experts 8X top 2 Likely related code: https://github.com/mistralai/megablocks-public Oddly absent: an over-rehearsed professional release video talking about a revolution in AI. If people are wondering why there is so much AI…

> it's because the biggest deep learning conference (NeurIPS) is next week.

Can we expect some big announcements (new architectures, models, etc) at the conference from different companies? Sorry, not too familiar what the culture for research conferences is.

Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

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Hot take but Mistral 7B is the actual state of the art of LLM's. ChatGPT 4 is amazing yes and i've been a day 1 subscriber, but it's huge, runs on server farms far away and is more or less a black box. Mistral is tiny, and amazingly coherent and useful for it's size for both general questions and code, uncensored, and a leap i wouldn't have believed possible in just a year. I can run it on my Macbook Air at 12tkps, c…

Given that 50% of all information consumed in the internet is produced in the last 24 hours, smaller models could hold a serious advantage over bigger models. If an LLM or a SmallLM can be retrained or fine-tuned constantly, every week or every day to incorporate recent information then outdated models trained a year or two years back hold no chance to keep up. Dunno about the licensing but OpenAI could incorporate a…

It's much easier to do RAG than try to shoehorn the entirety of the universe into 7B parameters every 24 hours. Mistral's great at being coherent and processing info at 7B, but you wouldn't want it as an oracle.

Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

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It'll be on Huggingface soon. This is how they dropped their original 7B model as well. It's a marketing thing, but it works!

Ah, well, ok. I appreciate the torrent link -- much faster distribution.

Also more reliable. I had to write my own script to clone hf repos on Windows because git+lfs to an smb share would only partially download.

Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

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In other llm news, Mistral/Yi finetunes trained with a new (still undocumented) technique called "neural alignment" are blasting other models in the HF leaderboard. The 7B is "beating" most 70Bs. The 34B in testing seems... Very good: https://huggingface.co/fblgit/una-xaberius-34b-v1beta https://huggingface.co/fblgit/una-cybertron-7b-v2-bf16 I mention this because it could theoretically be applied to Mistral Moe. If…

HF leaderboards are rarely reflective of real world performance especially in small variations, but nonetheless, this is promising. What are the HW requirements for this latest Mistral7B?

> What are the HW requirements for this latest Mistral7B

Pretty much anything with ~6-8GB of memory that's not super old.

It will run on my 6GB laptop RTX 2060 extremely quickly. It will run on my IGP or Phone with MLC-LLM. It will run fast on a laptop with a small GPU, with the rest offloaded to CPU.

Small, CPU only servers are kinda the only questionable thing. It runs, just not very fast, especially with long prompts (which are particularly hard for CPUs). There's also not a lot of support for AI ASICs.

Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

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Is complicated. The 7B model (cybertron) is trained on Mistral. Mistral is technically a 32K model, but it uses a sliding window beyond 32K, and for all practical purposes in current implementations it behaves like an 8K model. The 34B model is based on Yi 34B, which is inexplicably marked as a 4K model in the config but actually works out to 32K if you literally just edit that line. Yi also has a 200K base model...…

Did you mean "but it uses a sliding window beyond" *8K*? Because I don't understand how the sentence would work otherwise.

Yeah exactly, sorry.

Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

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No public statement from Mistral yet. What we know: - Mixture of Experts architecture. - 8x 7B parameters experts (potentially trained starting with their base 7B model?). - 96GB of weights. You won't be able to run this on your home GPU.

at 4 bits you could run it on a 3090 right?

Its crazy how the 3090 is such a ubiquitous local llm card these days. I despise Nvidia on linux... And yet I ended up with a 3090.

How are AMD/Intel totally missing this boat?

Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

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Still 7B, but now with 32k context. Looking forward to see how it compares with the previous one, and what the community does with it.

We can't infer the actual context size from the config.

Mistral 7B is basically an 8K model, but was marked as a 32K one.

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