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Re: You Win or You Learn

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Post by throw932490 »

mpixel wrote: post #176
throw932490 wrote: post #169

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There is very simple monetization strategy: ads, cut bloat, move content moderation staff to India! Tumblr has an army of content creator that work for free. It is a site that host text and images. How they even spend 30 million per year? Maybe on organizing "stuff convention", SF real estate and so on... Cut the bloat!

They don't spend 30 million per year, they spend 30 million over what they generate. I don't think they'd generate peanuts so as to not even cover hardware costs.

> they spend 30 million over what they generate

That is my point. I do not understand how they total costs can be over 30M. It is mostly static content that begs for CDN cache. It is also not mission critical.

Re: You Win or You Learn

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Post by lesostep »

phpisthebest wrote: post #105
armchairhacker wrote: post #72

It seems like social medias, from a financial perspective, are more commonly bad than good. Out of all the mainstream social medias I know, these ones seem to be losing money (or at least aren't generating "enough" profit): - Twitter: halved in value in 1 year - Tumblr - Reddit: stated it wasn't doing well when it increased the API price - YouTube: seems to not be doing well because it's trying to push adds and incre…

Who would have ever though giving way your product for free would not be a good business model... odd.... It is not "social media" that is the problem is the Ad Supported business model in general, everything ad supported is having problems right now, look at "news", blog sites, etc If it is ad support is has issue turning a profit. That is because ad supported is a terrible business model, however investors keep try…

I think it's a good point, considering that in an example only meta products made money. And Meta is huge advertising company that doesn't just sell ads in their apps, but also sell ads in other people apps with Audience Network.

So in attention economy the ultimate winners aren't advertisers or advertii but the ad brokers.

Re: You Win or You Learn

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Post by crummy »

throw932490 wrote: post #181
mpixel wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't spend 30 million per year, they spend 30 million over what they generate. I don't think they'd generate peanuts so as to not even cover hardware costs.

> they spend 30 million over what they generate That is my point. I do not understand how they total costs can be over 30M. It is mostly static content that begs for CDN cache. It is also not mission critical.

Probably they do a lot of content moderation, which takes human beings at least at some stage.

Re: You Win or You Learn

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Post by p1necone »

photomatt wrote: post #153
p1necone wrote: post #140

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(person who doesn't really know what they're talking about when it comes to services of this scale asking) Why does Tumblr need 1000 servers to run? You can serve a lot of text and relatively well compressed image files with not a lot of hardware.

For the YC audience: Tumblr has about 60B images using 8 petabytes of storage. 205TB of memory, 46,752 CPU threads, 250 kW of energy. About 100k requests a second, a petabyte a day of bandwidth.

So in short, the answer to my question is that the scale is way way larger than I imagined.

Re: You Win or You Learn

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Post by hoistbypetard »

photomatt wrote: post #152

I answered a ton of questions about this, on my Tumblr using the Asks feature: https://www.tumblr.com/photomatt

I didn't scroll very far down before the site demanded that I log in and wouldn't let me continue reading. Why do you do that, and is it possible you could see your way clear to not do that?

Re: You Win or You Learn

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Post by constantly »

Eumenes wrote: post #94
dragonwriter wrote: post #90

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> You don't think the millions of hours of widely available online porno has any impact on our culture or how people view sex? No, hence why I didn't say that. > It's incredibly ignorant to think that "evangelical Christians" are the only ones opposed to porn Lots of people are opposed to porn. The idea of porn addiction, OTOH, is very strongly associated with religiosity in general, and certain socially consevative…

The WHO recognizes "porn addiction" so its not some conspiracy theory. Not that I trust the WHO. Looks like porn is available for sale, possession, and production in almost all Christian majority nations, but not Islamic ones - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_laws_by_region

> The WHO recognizes "porn addiction" so it’s not some conspiracy theory. Not that I trust the WHO.

Who are you to say this? Who? WHO? You don’t trust WHO but do trust them when they support your pre-conceived solution? You really think you won’t get fooled again?

Re: You Win or You Learn

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Post by RugnirViking »

echelon wrote: post #46
hypertexthero wrote: post #25

Usability-wise, the thing that keeps me from using any Fb things, Threads.net included, is they break the bloody Back button!

Change of subject - any thoughts on the difference between user-friendly URLs? Root paths route to usernames: - https://twitter.com/username - https://github.com/username - https://www.instagram.com/username Sigil-scoped paths for usernames (these also use www-prefix): - https://www.threads.net/@username - https://www.youtube.com/@username Path-scoped usernames: - https://www.reddit.com/user/username - https://www.re…

the first option is the best imo by far. So clean. I've seen nontechnical people experimenting with those, playing and having fun seeing who has the username "banana" etc

Re: You Win or You Learn

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Post by Eumenes »

constantly wrote: post #186
Eumenes wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The WHO recognizes "porn addiction" so its not some conspiracy theory. Not that I trust the WHO. Looks like porn is available for sale, possession, and production in almost all Christian majority nations, but not Islamic ones - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_laws_by_region

> The WHO recognizes "porn addiction" so it’s not some conspiracy theory. Not that I trust the WHO. Who are you to say this? Who? WHO? You don’t trust WHO but do trust them when they support your pre-conceived solution? You really think you won’t get fooled again?

Using the WHO was just an example. Porn addiction is recognized by many "experts". I don't doubt you can be addicted to anything: video games, porn, exercise, sex, whatever. Now, treating it like a disease akin to drug addiction, that's something I don't understand.

Re: You Win or You Learn

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Post by Alex3917 »

sn41 wrote: post #146
Alex3917 wrote: post #138

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No idea. I’ve never worked at any of these companies, I just learned this in an academic conference presentation on ethnographic research into OnlyFans users. OnlyFans doesn’t have its on recommendation system, so users need to find their customers on instagram, Twitter, tumblr, etc.

Hi, just to sate my own curiosity: can you please provide me a link to this presentation, if it's available online? Thanks...

Not online, sorry!

Re: You Win or You Learn

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Post by jchw »

evanelias wrote: post #114
durable_queue wrote: post #88

MindGeek should buy Tumblr and allow adult content again. Tumblr's success was that it was an adult space that wasn't strictly pornography. It was a "cool sex" to PornHub's "hot sex".

> Tumblr's success was that it was an adult space that wasn't strictly pornography. This is a common talking point here, but it just isn't historically accurate in terms of absolute numbers. Tumblr was most successful in 2011-2012. It started getting huge in 2010 in large part due to having built-in photo and video support, at a time when Twitter didn't have these, and Instagram and Pinterest were still both tiny. Tu…

Seems like a reasonable take but I do have one comment:

> Adult content was definitely present, but it was a single-digit percentage of posts at the time of Tumblr's peak historical traffic levels.

Single-digit percentage is a lot for adult content. I have to imagine that's a larger share of percentage than Twitter has ever had for adult content.

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