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Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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It looks like these models won't be as useful for LLM inference which are heavily memory bandwidth constrained. The Macbook Pro page shows M3 at 100GB/s,150GB/s, and 300GB/s vs M2 at 200GB/s and 400GB/s. 400GB/s is available for M3 if you opt for the high gpu config, but interesting to see it go down across all of these models.

The presentation mentioned dynamic GPU caching: that seems like something transformer models would like.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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It's shiny but I think I'll stick to my upgradable RAM and two m2 slots + a RTX 3070ti and i7-12700H for a fraction of the price. Something at Apple broke when they switched to their own silicon outside iPad and iPhone. They turned around the slow march toward parity on price:performance/RAM/storage and went screaming in the other direction. I really wanted to switch to mac when I was shopping for a new system earlie…

I tried to find a laptop with the specification you just mentioned that could last 20 hours on battery. Didn’t.

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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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post #139

It's shiny but I think I'll stick to my upgradable RAM and two m2 slots + a RTX 3070ti and i7-12700H for a fraction of the price. Something at Apple broke when they switched to their own silicon outside iPad and iPhone. They turned around the slow march toward parity on price:performance/RAM/storage and went screaming in the other direction. I really wanted to switch to mac when I was shopping for a new system earlie…

I tried to find a laptop with the specification you just mentioned that could last 20 hours on battery. Didn’t.

This is a desktop replacement due to no room for a desktop. It's always plugged in. I have a nice iPhone for writing and making music on the go.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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post #139

It's shiny but I think I'll stick to my upgradable RAM and two m2 slots + a RTX 3070ti and i7-12700H for a fraction of the price. Something at Apple broke when they switched to their own silicon outside iPad and iPhone. They turned around the slow march toward parity on price:performance/RAM/storage and went screaming in the other direction. I really wanted to switch to mac when I was shopping for a new system earlie…

You know they announced a price cut right?

The price cut is the new starting model with just the M3 as a new SKU. The old comparible SKUs are about the same.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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post #26

What's with the 36 GB option? The other memory configs (16 GB, 64 GB) are still clean powers of two. Size suggests that they're using ECC-capable memory but using the extra width intended to support ECC for data... but why would this only apply to a single size? Part availability? EDIT: Digging this a bit, it's not (one or more) 72-bit wide busses with 2^32 words as I'd expect as a gray-beard, it's (probably) six 32-…

It also appears they've dropped the memory bandwidth from 200GB/s on the M1/M2 Pro to 150MB/s on the M3 Pro, and you have to upgrade to the tippy top M3 Max chip to get the full 400MB/s bandwidth experienced on the M1/M2 Max chips.

I remember getting one of those shiny aluminum MacBooks in 2009. Then MacBooks turned plastic and the aluminum ones became MacBook Pro's. Is this a thing Apple does? I'm not an Apple customer for many years now.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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What I really miss in my work issued M1 Pro isn't more power, it's the keyboard in those 2010s models.

I agree. And the longevity of them specifically for me. My M1 (MBP and MBA) keyboards shine after a few weeks' of activity whereas no shining on older MBPs with a decade of use – it reeks of a quality degradation.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You will need to convince your politicians to lower import duties and taxes. And that $1599 USD is without taxes. So not the whole US has this price. It was always worth for me to travel to Oregon to have zero tax.

I think you mean, convince politicians to allow for the ridiculous tax-excluded display pricing that’s prolific in the US.

> ridiculous tax-excluded display pricing

Why is that ridiculous? I don't pay sales tax, what else would you have them advertise?

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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post #26

What's with the 36 GB option? The other memory configs (16 GB, 64 GB) are still clean powers of two. Size suggests that they're using ECC-capable memory but using the extra width intended to support ECC for data... but why would this only apply to a single size? Part availability? EDIT: Digging this a bit, it's not (one or more) 72-bit wide busses with 2^32 words as I'd expect as a gray-beard, it's (probably) six 32-…

64 GB chips that failed testing? That's one way to increase yield. Clive Sinclair did that trick back in the 80s.

Apple did binning back with the original M1. (either 7-core or 8-core models)
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