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Re: Shell using Fortnite, TikTok, etc. to convince kids fossil fuels are cool

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Post by bathtub365 »

Tade0 wrote: post #131
slashdev wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"if you let your baby sleep with you, you are a bad mother" that leads to a number of accidental suffocations. I think that’s pretty reasonable to educate the public about that.

That's mostly an urban legend and the vast majority of such cases happen when the parent is not sober and essentially knocked out unconscious. I mean, infants are typically warmer than adults and they wriggle around a lot - it's hard enough to sleep next to them, much less within suffocation distance.

If the combination of drinking and sleeping beside your infant leads to a higher chance of suffocating them you can ask people to stop drinking, stop sleeping beside their infant, or both. History has shown us that people won’t stop drinking so I think recommending the other potential solution makes sense.

Re: Shell using Fortnite, TikTok, etc. to convince kids fossil fuels are cool

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Post by TheLoafOfBread »

aaomidi wrote: post #95
whatever1 wrote: post #86

Fossil fuels are irreplaceable for what they offer at the price they ask. Don’t ask the West. Ask India that had the choice to leapfrog fossil fuels and be energy independent, at higher cost. People don’t care about our opinions. They want the cheapest options. The only way to transition out of fossils for energy, is to make the alternatives cheaper and easily accessible. US transitioned from coal to gas within 10 ye…

Or, here’s another idea: a tax on carbon. We are subsidizing fossil fuels by deferring their actual real cost to the future. We can and should stop doing that.

> Or, here’s another idea: a tax on carbon.

So more tax on food and energy to the poor. Great idea how to start a riot.

Re: Shell using Fortnite, TikTok, etc. to convince kids fossil fuels are cool

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Post by Tade0 »

gardenhedge wrote: post #144
Tade0 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's mostly an urban legend and the vast majority of such cases happen when the parent is not sober and essentially knocked out unconscious. I mean, infants are typically warmer than adults and they wriggle around a lot - it's hard enough to sleep next to them, much less within suffocation distance.

So we have advice from the government or your HN comment to go on. There needs to be more substance to your claims

To quote our pediatrician: "do you believe in UFOs? That's roughly in the same ballpark in terms of connection with reality".

This part of the reply to my SO's question about this. Later he explained that it's mainly drunk/high people who suffocate their children like that.

You only need a sufficiently wide bed and separate covers for the parents - that's it.

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Post by andix »

jabradoodle wrote: post #178
vel0city wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is not the largest GHG polluter. China is, by a large measure. https://www.statista.com/statistics/271748/the-largest-emitt... Sure, if you're talking per capita, US people emit more carbon dioxide but with your "even with 1/5th" and "the biggest polluter" it suggests you're thinking total not per capita.

Should have fact checked myself on that one.

The US were for a long time. But now it’s China. Although they already are the biggest producer of green energy world wide. They produce more green energy than all other countries combined. I don’t know if their strategy will drastically reduce their carbon emissions soon, for now they are still rising. In Europe and the US they are going down a while already (also because we moved a lot of our industry to china).

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Post by TheLoafOfBread »

jabradoodle wrote: post #115
ravenstine wrote: post #11

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Yeah, I'm not a fan of big corporations using propaganda, especially towards children but, that topic aside, people are kidding themselves if they believe their way of life would exist without fossil fuels. Look up the Haber process; your ability to walk down to a Whole Foods in a city of millions and buy groceries to support your vegan diet wouldn't be a thing. The stepping stone to things like nuclear and solar wou…

> You know what the solution is, reader? Either support pro-nuclear policies until something better comes along, or shut up about climate change. Renewables are already cheaper than fossil fuels in many cases. No one thinks fossil fuels were not essential in getting us to where we are.

> Renewables are already cheaper than fossil fuels in many cases.

At 1pm when sun is shining. For the rest of the time you need to run backup ... on fossil fuels. This is the main reason why Germany is unlikely to decarbonize in a near future.

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Post by TheLoafOfBread »

permo-w wrote: post #46
ravenstine wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of big corporations using propaganda, especially towards children but, that topic aside, people are kidding themselves if they believe their way of life would exist without fossil fuels. Look up the Haber process; your ability to walk down to a Whole Foods in a city of millions and buy groceries to support your vegan diet wouldn't be a thing. The stepping stone to things like nuclear and solar wou…

I'd never heard of the Haber process, it was interesting to read about according to wikipedia it cut the required farmland to feed a population in four. obviously it's hard to argue with more food for more people, but it clearly made urbanisation and overpopulation that much easier. quite a brilliant invention of engineering, but is it actually a good thing for a population to grow at that rate?

What are you implying by this comment?

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Post by kibibu »

somsak2 wrote: post #163
dieortin wrote: post #134

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When heat records that stood for a century are now broken every year, it’s a clear indication that something is going on. And it’s clearly a problem. Heat being so high to beat the record is unequivocally a problem. Anyways, it’s not like those that “tune out” when you point out heat records are being broken every year would listen if you gave them truly scientific arguments.

I don't think it's obvious to everyone why heat records being broken are clearly or unequivocally a problem. These projections we've seen from climate scientists have always been off, why should I trust them about the impact of a warmer climate?

Because higher temperatures directly correlate with higher death through heatwave events, and indirectly through more intense weather events and longer fire seasons.

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Post by TheLoafOfBread »

tekmate wrote: post #127
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just recently the Greens got Germany to shutter their nuclear power plants increasing their use of coal.

that timeline was decided by the a conservative government after fukushima

And Greens are in government and could have cancel it. They have chosen not to. They are responsible as well.
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