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The end of cool small cars

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Re: The end of cool small cars

#181

Is there a street-legal modification we could make to small sedans that would massively increase the risk of death to an SUV/truck owner (and ideally only that) in the event of a collision? Until the lethal calculus is equalized, the arms race is going to continue. SUV drivers have to start dying. I know it sounds extreme, but the fact that they don't die and that the other guy dies instead, is the entire reason they…

Maybe fill the car with lithium ion batteries?

Re: The end of cool small cars

#182

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Instead of punishing the middle class by slapping ulez on them, it would be far more effective and fair for the london mayor to offer free school buses like they do in some parts of America.

I'm not sure the middle classes are likely to be hit by ULEZ anyway - it hits vehicles older than a certain age, primarily - not many of those Chelsea Tractors are likely to fall foul of it. While I agree with ULEZ, I will admit it's quite regressive - the people with old/polluting vehicles are, in many cases, those least able to afford anything better and/or the charge. Public transport should be much better, but th…

Add to that the production of newer ones just negated the effeciency gain.

Re: The end of cool small cars

#183

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I still disagree. A completely factual statement like “my daily observations support the theory that sales of large pick-up trucks in The Netherlands have grown, while I can not observe a matching growth in business development that could explain the increased need for such vehicles” would be read by exactly no one. A joke based in truth catches people’s attention and draws them to read essentially the same thing I s…

> I still disagree. Have you measured the penis size of every large vehicle owner, published your findings, and had them peer reviewed?

What the hell are comments like this doing on HN? Please take your phallic insecurity and go away.

Re: The end of cool small cars

#184

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You saw a resurgence of small cars in the US around 2010 after the US housing bubble burst. High unemployment + suppressed wages + high gas prices had Americans, particularly young Americans, looking for small compact cars.

Yeah, the Honda Fit was one of the best-selling cars in the US for a few years of the late 00s. Peaked around 2008, when it outsold the Ford Explorer and Chevy TrailBlazer. Even then Honda sold about 450k fewer Fits that year than F-series trucks, and 120k fewer Fits than CR-V crossovers. Writing was on the wall by 2014, when Honda tried to sell an awful 20kWh/sub-100 mi. range EV Fit, and it never recovered. Gone co…

My Fit has been rock solid, and because the back seats fold totally flat - the usable cargo space is substantial. Two large car seats in the back is no issue (though three would require buying specifically narrow seats). 35-40 mpg.

It’s not fancy, but it’s a fantastic city vehicle.

Re: The end of cool small cars

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Sounds like you're one of the idiots

It only sounds like that because most people are not able to look at things objectively. But, obviously, you're wrong. I don't own a car and haven't for many years. I never intend to own a car ever again. But just because I don't want to own a car, that doesn't mean that anyone who does is an idiot. Hope that settles it.

So youre not even a pert of this conversation. Only car buyers determine which cars are sold.

Re: The end of cool small cars

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As my modest contribution to the battle against SUVs/crossovers/other bloat, I am attempting to popularise the term ‘bimbo box’ - the credit of which belongs to Neal Stephenson’s Snow Crash

How is calling names helpful? Can we please act like adults? Treating others badly only reflects on your character.

Re: The end of cool small cars

#187
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As my modest contribution to the battle against SUVs/crossovers/other bloat, I am attempting to popularise the term ‘bimbo box’ - the credit of which belongs to Neal Stephenson’s Snow Crash

I call them the more offensive “TwatPanzers”

This is vulgar, unhelful, and childish. Why is this even on HN?

Re: The end of cool small cars

#188

Cities should start putting in bollards that prevent wide vehicles from passing but let narrow ones through. Make the bollards retractable into the ground. If you want your big-arse vehicle to go through, you have to stop and then pay 10 $/£/€

While well meaning, this sounds dystopian. Neverming backing up traffic for smaller cars.

Re: The end of cool small cars

#189

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A lot of SUVs are more or less the same thing as a minivan. The minivan, like the station wagon is a casualty of its own success. Both became synonymous with boring domestic middle class family life.

The recent Kia Carnival (name for US market IIRC) is an interesting response to this phenomenon. It's a true minivan that's just styled as if it's an SUV.

I feel most SUVs are just minivans for people who would not want to be seen driving a minivan.

Re: The end of cool small cars

#190

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The recent Kia Carnival (name for US market IIRC) is an interesting response to this phenomenon. It's a true minivan that's just styled as if it's an SUV.

I feel most SUVs are just minivans for people who would not want to be seen driving a minivan.

My theory is that there's (in USA) a pervasive emotional connection to driver seat height that's driven/exacerbated by the arms race to build larger and taller vehicles. Everyone wants their family to be in the safest vehicle possible, and higher driver seat height is a tactile, intuitive way to feel like you're in a larger and ostensibly safer vehicle, than other cars on the road with lower driver seat height.

Around where I am, the Kia Telluride is much more popular than the Carnival, which I think is telling.

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