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New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by thejazzman »

drewg123 wrote: post #64

Sounds like not much has changed since 2015. A good friend ordered a new Model S in 2015. It arrived with a "squeak" that turned out to be due to missing welds in structural components of the chassis. They wanted him to sign an NDA to get a replacement vehicle (which he refused to do, both on principle, and because he'd talked to friends about it already). So he was forced to keep his vehicle, which was then repaired…

My 2015's battery "died" the day after the warranty was up.

$15k for a refurbished battery from another old broken car. Once fixed, the cars resell value is at about $20k.

And they took my battery back to sell to someone else for $15k.

Definitely feel like a HUGE sucker for supporting them. This thing was $101k new.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by TheCondor »

rsynnott wrote: post #63
stephenr wrote: post #9

The weirdest part of this to me is the customer. You knew the manufacturer had a reputation of forgetting hard to check parts ... and you still bought one. What else could it be missing that you can't practically check for? Still I guess at least it's good to see Tesla living up to the reputation for American cars to be generally shit build quality. I feel like they're going a bit overboard on that factor though.

People are _extremely_ weird about that company. I was half-surprised that the usual, near-obligatory, “I love my Tesla, but…” quote was missing.

People are weird about nearly all car companies... Tesla hits some other nerves and feels with electricifaction and being a new "American company" but it's the same as most other car companies. There are crappy car companies out there and there are people that will buy their cars.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by Fatnino »

jen20 wrote: post #166
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And this is how they treated their early adopters that were paying $100K in 2015 for their higher end cars. And yet it didn't stop anyone from buying Teslas... It's almost as if they knew they could get away with murder.

This kind of thing certainly stopped me from buying one, even in the days before they were referred to as “MAGAmobiles”. Instead I waited for companies that actually know how to make cars to work out how to make electric cars.

Who is calling them MAGAmobiles?

A MAGAmobile is a lifted truck that rolls coal and has a huge lets go brandon decal

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by thejazzman »

latchkey wrote: post #105
nimajneb wrote: post #93

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My bet is that becomes a scenerio where the party with the most money for lawyers wins. If it was me, I would have almost no money for lawyers.

No money for lawyers, before or after you spent $100k on a car?

It's pretty painful to drop thousands on lawyers when you know they have significantly more money and better lawyers

I say this as a person who very much wanted to sue Tesla and backed down on the advice of my lawyer friend -- I was most likely only increasing my net loss and severely stressing myself out

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by thejazzman »

Fatnino wrote: post #183
jen20 wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This kind of thing certainly stopped me from buying one, even in the days before they were referred to as “MAGAmobiles”. Instead I waited for companies that actually know how to make cars to work out how to make electric cars.

Who is calling them MAGAmobiles? A MAGAmobile is a lifted truck that rolls coal and has a huge lets go brandon decal

Everyone I know with a Tesla is very much anti-Musk and bought before he totally jumped the horse

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by Semaphor »

sixothree wrote: post #84
adionionio wrote: post #28

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If it is legal where you live, you might want to get in the habit of secretly recording business dealings. I always have a recorder in my pocket when dealing with more than a few hundred dollars.

Is it true that if a business states that “calls may be recorded” then no matter where you live, it’s legal to record the call as well.

Not in Germany. You have to get explicit permission or at least give the chance to deny consent, just because you consent doesn't mean the recording party did. It's a bit sad, IMO.

What I do is I inform and get consent from hotline agents during the call.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by version_five »

stef25 wrote: post #130
chrisco255 wrote: post #109

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It would be a weird play for anyone to sign such a thing. Most states in the U.S. have lemon laws that prevent maufacturers from selling such vehicles. A manufacturer only gets a certain number of attempts at repairs (usually 3 for new cars) on new vehicles or a limited time frame to fix them before they must offer a full replacement.

> A manufacturer only gets a certain number of attempts at repairs (usually 3 for new cars) on new vehicles or a limited time frame to fix them before they must offer a full replacement Wow that would be awesome. Someone I know here in the EU had a leaking sun roof on their Toyota and after so many fixes and replacements that did nothing (and she had to pay for) the dealer basically said "we can't fix it, the parts a…

We don't have lemon laws in Canada either, I had a major problem with my brand new truck and the manufacturer and dealer were useless, strung me along and refused to help. I ended up giving up and trading it in and buying something else (obviously another brand), it wasn't worth the fight.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by r00fus »

Pxtl wrote: post #163
artursapek wrote: post #139

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American cars, especially trucks, have a great reputation. What are you talking about?

You've never heard the joke that FORD stands for "Fix It Again, Tony" (and, unrelatedly, FIAT stands for "Found On Roadside, Dead")?

Fix Or Repair Daily is what I remember from childhood. Though to be honest, my parents had a very decent record from the 00's.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by FredPret »

chrisco255 wrote: post #141
FredPret wrote: post #123

I took an Uber in a Tesla (the small flat one) recently. I could not believe the squeaking. Every Tesla driver I talk to loves theirs though. I hope the Cybertruck is much better built.

Squeaking? That's usually a signal the brakes need replacement.

No, the seat was loud. Every time anything moved, including the car, or me breathing, it sounded like a clown folding a balloon schnauzer.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by idiotsecant »

vel0city wrote: post #151
maffydub wrote: post #72

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In previous employment (as a software engineer), I've been told to do this too - mainly around inventions we were trying to patent. The reason is slightly less nefarious than you might think - for example, someone might casually say that some aspect of their patent is "obvious" but they're saying that as an expert in their field who may have spent months or years thinking about the problem and alternative solutions.…

I agree its usually not good to sprinkle legal landmines in your email history, but FWIW the obviousness standard for US patents is someone "skilled in the art", so an expert working in that field finding it obvious is failing the obviousness test.

OK, but you get what parent post is saying. This particular example might have a technical answer but the overall point is that emails tend to lack context and are composed for brevity / convenience.

"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu

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