Getting a job at Apple without going to college or doing LeetCode

Post by PartiallyTyped » Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 5:11 PM UTC

SilverBirch wrote: post #27

I think the sort of more general point, rather than "build something great that someone at Apple notices", is that Graduate and Internship programmes are scale businesses. They get thousands of people applying and will hire atleast dozens, probably some FANG are hiring hundreds. So yes, we're all special snowflakes, but that's not what this process is for. It's about harsh rounds of easy to design problems to winnow…

Post by slt2021 » Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 5:12 PM UTC

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #68

fnands wrote: post #38

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My understanding is that they use it to filter candidates a bit. FAANG positions get loads of applicants, so they have to find efficient ways of thinning the herd a bit. The correlation between people who are willing to grind leetcode and who turn out to be good engineers is high enough that it's worth it for them to keep as a tool to sort the massive pile of applicants they get. Of course, hiring someone purely on h…

> The correlation between people who are willing to grind leetcode and who turn out to be good engineers is high enough that it's worth it for them to keep as a tool to sort the massive pile of applicants they get. One "subtlety" this misses is that leetcode-style trivia tests only work for those who are willing _and able_ to grind leetcode etc. There are many who have the aptitude and experience but have e.g. childr…

Post by pphysch » Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 5:15 PM UTC

marliechiller wrote: post #179

jeffbee wrote: post #162

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Adding 1 to an ASCII decimal strings is a great icebreaker and I always use it. It is not leetcode. It is a filter for people who have actually encountered computers before. Even though our industry is maturing there are still a huge number of candidates who present themselves without ever once having written a program. I find the question has a massive signal. Either the candidate aces it in 15 seconds, or they imme…

I have written countless programs but would not be able to answer that without first turning to google. You might have screened out plenty of valid applicants with this

Post by josephg » Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 5:17 PM UTC

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #68

fnands wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding is that they use it to filter candidates a bit. FAANG positions get loads of applicants, so they have to find efficient ways of thinning the herd a bit. The correlation between people who are willing to grind leetcode and who turn out to be good engineers is high enough that it's worth it for them to keep as a tool to sort the massive pile of applicants they get. Of course, hiring someone purely on h…

> The correlation between people who are willing to grind leetcode and who turn out to be good engineers is high enough that it's worth it for them to keep as a tool to sort the massive pile of applicants they get. One "subtlety" this misses is that leetcode-style trivia tests only work for those who are willing _and able_ to grind leetcode etc. There are many who have the aptitude and experience but have e.g. childr…

Post by kaashif » Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 5:20 PM UTC

zerr wrote: post #114

intelVISA wrote: post #56

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can confirm, it's as simple PG says "just build something people want" it will open many doors :)

Why would you want to become a wage slave if you've already built something that people want (thus can monetize it yourself)?