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The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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>Russian corruption doesn't generally touch Western governments No offense but the fact that someone on HN could get to this conclusion is rather shocking to me. Western Europe has plenty of russian corruption and I'm afraid the ongoing war has unearthed only a fraction of it.

For example?

For example: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56280898 . She lives in Russia now.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Also Western billionaire versus Russian oligarch - even if the source of wealth is virtually identical and their political power probably higher in the West.

"Oligarchs" refer to underground Russian businessmen that cheaply bought up state assets after the USSR collapsed and sold it for exceedingly higher sums later. It's a blasphemy to capitalism to conflate those bandits with Western entrepreneurs that founded and built their own companies from scratch, even though they have their own set of issues.

Can someone explain this to me? America won the Cold War and had an influence on Russia's (the successor state) transition to a market-based economy. Then how can “we“ at the same time be mad about how the transition was handled?

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Folks are focussing on the Russian part of this. But Yandex just happens to be the one whose source code got analyzed; you can safely substitute "Google" or "Facebook" or any of the other various behavior advertising companies here. They're all doing similar things and it's terrific to have such a detailed analysis of how it works. Wired has a good summary if you want something more like a mainstream press article: h…

Of course we are focusing on the Russian part. Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west, so their spying is several factors more serious case than just a simple violation of privacy.

> Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west

Well, either that or the west has decided that Russia is the enemy. I honestly don't buy the saying "Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west". Why would anybody want to be the enemy of the global superpower?

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Of course we are focusing on the Russian part. Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west, so their spying is several factors more serious case than just a simple violation of privacy.

> Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west Well, either that or the west has decided that Russia is the enemy. I honestly don't buy the saying "Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west". Why would anybody want to be the enemy of the global superpower?

Why would any sane person want to be an enemy of the West?

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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To take you literally for a moment: if anyone can claim land across a border, based on a historical grievance, then no border would stand. 70 years without a border war in Europe, so yeah we should try to push that water back up the hill. Otherwise a recursive "I would like my land back please."

Kosovo, Northern Ireland, Cyprus

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Of course we are focusing on the Russian part. Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west, so their spying is several factors more serious case than just a simple violation of privacy.

> Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west Well, either that or the west has decided that Russia is the enemy. I honestly don't buy the saying "Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west". Why would anybody want to be the enemy of the global superpower?

Lithium mines in the Donbas region, perhaps?

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Remember that time a year ago in February when the Namecheap CEO gave every person with a Russian ID, living inside and outside Russia, 1-week notice that their account is terminated and they have to host elsewhere? Including expats, refugees, objectors, what have you. Your contract with Namecheap is terminated for being connected to Russia. Prove to us you're not, if you want to keep your service. His justification?…

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What you actually do to protect sacred 1991 borders of Ukraine? Are you helping children, who lost parts of their body, for example?

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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> Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west Well, either that or the west has decided that Russia is the enemy. I honestly don't buy the saying "Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west". Why would anybody want to be the enemy of the global superpower?

Why would any sane person want to be an enemy of the West?

IMHO it is only appropriate to call someone "insane" after genuinely trying to understand their actions and motivations.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Given that they live in the US/UK and not in Russia, yes. As I understand it, the claim is not that the US/UK are as evil as Russia, or even more or less morally equivalent. The claim is that the US/UK hoover up online information just like Russia (maybe even more), and that they are more exposed to what the US/UK governments do than they are to what Russia does . Without minimizing the misdeeds of Russia, without re…

Haven't we seen by now countless claims of the Russian government influencing western democracies through things like ad tech? When millions of us give them our data these kinds of attacks become easier and easier.

Fair point, and something that should be considered. Also, we're essentially giving them a free, large scale open source intelligence feed.

But the GRU isn't going to come to my door and arrest me because I searched on the wrong thing, even if I use Yandex. So in that sense, I'm insulated from what they know about me.

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