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Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Post by arprocter »

Corrado wrote: post #170
nerdo wrote: post #82

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No joke just the Amazon stick itself would accomplish that. It tries to phone home constantly, every second of every day, idle or not.

I can confirm (mostly). I have a FireCube and if my Internet connection goes down then I can't watch TV at all. Even the Plex server I have in my closet. It's super annoying! In fact, I'm ==this== close to ditching it and going with AppleTV. The experience is just so much better.

You might be able to load VLC onto the FireCube and then enable DLNA on your Plex server

Navigating DLNA in VLC isn't great, but better than nothing

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Post by HWR_14 »

tristan957 wrote: post #171
HWR_14 wrote: post #63

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The difference is I feel Apple's walls protect me as well as their profits. I do not feel the same about Amazon/Microsoft/Meta/Google.

How does Apple keeping you sideloading apps protect you?

If Apple allows sideloading apps in any way that is easily accessible to the average user, then

(a) Meta will insist their apps are sideloaded to enable privacy violations. Right now, they cannot say goodbye to iOS users. They could say goodbye to the small percentage that refuse to sideload (or even just put a worse version in the store to those people with enough new features to push most people to sideload.).

(b) Chrome will be sideloadable. Which means web developers will be convinced "sideload Chrome" is a reasonable fix. Reinforcing spiral and soon Google owns the browser in a way that is the envy of 1990's Microsoft. Keep in mind they managed to turn MS's Edge from a third browser to a Chrome skin. That's bad (see Manifest v3, WEI, etc.).

The list goes on, we could talk about Epic and games and store exclusives.

To say nothing about having to debug malware on my family's devices.

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Post by throwaway742 »

speedgoose wrote: post #58
CuriouslyC wrote: post #47

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This right here. You're anti-consumer? Enjoy losing money with your content "monopoly"

I also enjoy spending time on shady websites with scams ads and virus. That will teach Netflix and Apple.

All my favorite shows download automatically to my server. I can stream them to any of my devices. There are no ads or viruses.

This infographic is a bit out of date, but you get the idea https://i.imgur.com/IrxoHI3.png

It's overall a vastly superior experience.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Post by throwaway742 »

speedgoose wrote: post #146
thefurdrake wrote: post #84

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I don't spend any time on shady websites with scams, ads, and viruses, and I surf the high seas for video content with regularity. It's very easy to do safely, and in this day and age, it beggars belief that this comment was made in good faith. Stop spreading misinformation.

Please share the websites because I never found them.

PTP, BTN, HDB

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Post by duped »

pmontra wrote: post #116
duped wrote: post #61

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> Why can't you just plug a Linux box into your TV and use that? Because most streaming services don't support 4k HDR on Linux. And if I'm spending thousands of dollars for my TV to play 4k HDR content, I want to be able to watch it.

How about a Windows box, whatever the form factor, and a HDMI cable?

I'd rather use my TVs flavor of android than Windows, honestly. I just don't see what that would buy me.

I get running a Linux media server, don't get me wrong. But a dedicated windows machine for my TV seems like a waste of time and money when my TV can already do whatever that box would. It buys me very little.

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Post by taeric »

paul7986 wrote: post #94
kevinventullo wrote: post #78

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Does Hollywood still make most of its money from theater ticket sales?

If it does look at the box office results this year or lack of them compared to the last few years ... many not opening and or close to 100 million seen in many prior years. Could be a mix things from attention spans changing in various demographics to economics to increased spending in travel to other things.

You really couldn't have picked a worse weekend to make this call. Barbie, alone, is setting record numbers that are showing a pretty good recovery for the past few years.

I'm open to attention spans changing. Or demographics changing. Or both. My money, though, is pandemic hangover. I'm struggling to see how anything else comes even close in explanation power to, "we were in a pandemic."

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Post by notatoad »

l33t233372 wrote: post #169
abdullahkhalids wrote: post #163

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There is a difference between * 20 million people watched show X-Episode 5, and * notatoad watched show X-Episode 5 on 28-July-2023 at 8pm. We can also correlate that that they used UberEats to order Thai Cuisine at 7 pm on the same day, and that a certain group he belongs to was Y% more likely to buy the product placed within that show. The second kind of information will be used in the future against you, to extrac…

I used to order Chinese take out to watch every new episode of Burn Notice. I’m not concerned about companies knowing this and using it “against me” in targeted advertising.

this sounds pretty excellent. i wish some advertiser had suggested this to me when burn notice was still on the air.

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Post by mcpackieh »

michaelmrose wrote: post #157
mcpackieh wrote: post #115

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I've heard the others are as you say, but Youtube delivers 4k to me on Linux, in Firefox or mpv.

Youtube has the video service with cats, puppies, howtos, reviews, and conspiracy theories and YoutubeTV which has live TV, as well as movies, and shows. It is the latter which is artificially limited on Linux but LESS so than for instance hulu or Amazon. In case any confusion remains these latter are available at tv.youtube.com with a subscription.

Huh, I didn't know this exists. Seems antithetical to the point of youtube to be honest, is this actually popular?

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Post by andrewmackrodt »

hamandcheese wrote: post #122
mschuster91 wrote: post #40

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I'm really surprised that no one has bothered (or managed) to create an open-source TEE emulator. I mean, there's a ton of different ARM CPUs around there, and it's all ARM under the hood, so it should be possible to create a virtual TEE/TPM and provide it transparently to a VM?

Given how readily available 4K HDR content is on the high seas, I assume Widevine is cracked.

Yes, given the 4K WEB-DL releases it seems a few groups/individuals possess the knowledge of decrypting L1 content. Occasionally an L1 key will be leaked but is burnt quickly. I think the requirement of "unique" keys stops an interest in a public effort to make L1 content work under Linux, especially as there is already support for L3 content. Even under Windows and macOS end users must be using Microsoft Edge or Safari (platform specific) - given Chrome's huge marketshare I imagine lots of non Linux users are consuming exclusively L3 content on desktop platforms so I'm not sure there's much demand for full/ultra HD content, although many users may simply be unaware that their browser choice affects the quality of content they are streaming.

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Post by paul7986 »

taeric wrote: post #186
paul7986 wrote: post #94

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If it does look at the box office results this year or lack of them compared to the last few years ... many not opening and or close to 100 million seen in many prior years. Could be a mix things from attention spans changing in various demographics to economics to increased spending in travel to other things.

You really couldn't have picked a worse weekend to make this call. Barbie, alone, is setting record numbers that are showing a pretty good recovery for the past few years. I'm open to attention spans changing. Or demographics changing. Or both. My money, though, is pandemic hangover. I'm struggling to see how anything else comes even close in explanation power to, "we were in a pandemic."

Barbie yes ... but what about tons of others released mid may til now. Last summer in 2022 many movies made well over 100 million. So the pandemic?

Also Youtube is the most used streaming app followed by TikTok ... how many are watching for free? See Google results for this data https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=are%20people%20using%2...

My thoughts are based on the data above, other similar data Ive seen, my own shortening attention span and these years lackluster box-office compared to 2022 (movies from 2022 that opened above and or well above 100 million https://www.boxofficepro.com/the-top-10-movies-of-2022-at-th...)

To me Hollywood needs to worry even more so the writers, actors and etc ... a younger demographic the future's attention span looks to be elsewhere and they aren't paying to watch their media.

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