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Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by yreg »

93po wrote: post #175
yreg wrote: post #15

I don't think Worldcoin is the solution, but I'm interested in hearing what the rest of you think the solution to the bots-indistiguishable-to-humans problem could look like? Or should we just accept that the times of interacting over internet with strangers you can believe to be humans is over? The only idea I see is for some certificates handed out by government to citizens and I absolutely hate it even in a democr…

A certificate from the government that gets revoked when you commit a crime. Or are accused of a crime. That can track every single thing you so online. All of your speech online, which is most of everyone’s speech, is permanently stored and analyzed.

The government doesn't need to know which services you use and which accounts are yours. The service doesn't need to know who you are, only that you are a unique human.

But yes, as I said, I hate the idea. Was asking for other solutions.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by 93po »

scottmsul wrote: post #9

I'd be curious to see if someone could use generative AI to make fake irises and scam the handout mechanism

They’re actively developing to prevent this, though already it would require a compromised orb and orb operator, which would get blocked from the chain and all irises scanned since compromise removed from the chain. The bigger hurdle is the scanning of people who are dead or unconscious or animals trying to pass as human

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by tamimio »

__alexs wrote: post #146
cwkoss wrote: post #120

Any decentralized system that uses biometrics for authentication rather than just identification is doomed to fail spectacularly. Biometrics are like a username NOT like a password. When a piece of wolrdcoin is inevitably compromised, people have no means of rolling a new iris. The whole thing will come crashing down. There are so many stupid decisions this team is making. Like, users can opt into the orbs retaining…

As much as I think Worldcoin is dumb they do get this part right in that they only use the iris scan as a unique identifier to prevent multiple sign ups from the same physical bag of meat^H^H^H^H^H person.

>unique identifier to prevent multiple sign up

Yet there’s already a black market where you can buy multiple accounts with real iris.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by 93po »

yreg wrote: post #181
93po wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A certificate from the government that gets revoked when you commit a crime. Or are accused of a crime. That can track every single thing you so online. All of your speech online, which is most of everyone’s speech, is permanently stored and analyzed.

The government doesn't need to know which services you use and which accounts are yours. The service doesn't need to know who you are, only that you are a unique human. But yes, as I said, I hate the idea. Was asking for other solutions.

Yeah the US government would never in a million years do it in a privacy preserving way

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by 93po »

latchkey wrote: post #160
93po wrote: post #156

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This is a really tired take. Please provide some substance as to why you think this is a bad project instead of just shitting in it without justification

Worldcoin was just released, it can't be tired already! The only thing tiring here are the repeat grifting VC scams.

Worldcoin has been discussed on HN and elsewhere for at least a year

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by 93po »

rideontime wrote: post #163
93po wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WC isn’t doing any of the traditional shitcoin behavior. They ban discussion about price speculation. There’s no pre-sales. There’s no sales at all until the coin actually launches. One of the major premises of worldcoin is UBI - literally giving money away. I genuinely believe Sam Altman started WC with others for altruistic reasons

Not giving money away, giving "worldcoin" away, whatever the hell that is.

This doesn’t seem like a good faith argument

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by danbruc »

93po wrote: post #161
mrguyorama wrote: post #126

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>I don’t believe that the team are lying Why not? >If it fails it’s pretty inconsequential. Definitely, it only collected the biometrics of thousands of desperate people into the hands of private people who work with law enforcement agencies everywhere to provide surveillance as a service.

You’re misrepresenting what it’s collecting and you’re part of the problem in this discussion. Worldcoin isn’t storing anything that could be used by any other entity. It doesn’t store biometrics and there isn’t a way to use the store information to know what the iris looked like that generated it.

How do you know? Because they said so?

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by Analemma_ »

brian_cloutier wrote: post #59
cguess wrote: post #32

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It's crypto, and it's Peter Thiel and Sam Altman, but definition it's a scam.

What do you mean when you say scam? Are you claiming this is fraudulent in some way?

I mean the root comment pretty much already explained it. It is literally impossible for Worldcoin to actually perform its stated purpose, therefore it's a scam.
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