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Macbooks are versioned. The versions people refer to are 'mid 2007', 'late 2008', etc. iPods are also versioned. People refer to their '4G iPod shuffle' or their '2G iPod touch'

But that's not the actual product name, as used by Apple publicly.

Er...

http://support.apple.com/manuals/#macbook

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Someone needs to do exactly this, then sue the balls off these carriers for such draconian plans and rates.

Suing the balls off of someone requires that you have "cause".

The government allows Verizon and AT&T to use the wireless spectrum with many caveats. One caveat is that they can't royally fuck their customers. This is royally fucking their customers. Hence, cause for a lawsuit is established.

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@UGH My problem isn't about "you know what you're getting, it's clearly communicated" My anger is because THERE IS NO FUCKING UNLIMITED PLAN AT ALL We are on HN, I have been on the internet DAILY for 15 years now. EVERY SINGLE DAY for many hours. As a travelling consultant, I rely heavily on mobile access to the internet. The fact that I had an unlimited account in the past - but now that speeds are getting acceptabl…

Maybe they can’t give you an unlimited plan? Data is seriously expensive for the carriers.

Maybe they shouldn't force customers to take an unlimited plan in the first place if they couldn't support it. For a very long time, until you could actually use that much data, att forced us to sign 2-year contracts with unlimited data.

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I think this is one way Apple brings their marketing in line with how average consumers think. Most non-gadget people don't know the difference between the iPhone 4, 4S, and 3GS , other than price. They assume the more expensive one is better and does more stuff. But model numbers (even if it's just a single number) are not the way most consumers think. Similarly, the iPhone 4S simply says "iPhone" on the back and is…

I'm not sure , sticking numbers after something is a fairly universal thing. Movies, video games and most software has been doing this for a while.

Yes it is, but people only understand model numbers if it's something they take a deep interest in. I'm into smart phones and computers so I know how the naming conventions work. But, I don't know or care about the naming conventions for things like TV's, sports stats, cars, etc. Example; I've been looking for a new car recently and I find the model naming conventions confusing. I just want 6 seats, reliability, reasonable overtaking performance, reasonable fuel economy. I don't give a crap about most of the other stuff and I'm annoyed at having to learn it all so I can chose which car to buy.

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Well, you could legitimately use 2GB by simply purchasing a movie that they discussed in the presentation. A 720p version of "Drive" on iTunes is 3.17GB. Soon it will be upgraded to 1080p, which would be at /least/ 5GB. That's at least $50 in data for one movie, assuming the data plans stay the same.

Apple doesn't let you download anything (apps, movies) bigger than 50mb over a cellular connection.

But once you go to 4G, that limitation just doesn't make sense any more. I know several people for whom 4G is the fastest internet connection available to them. Sure you could hack around it by setting up a wifi hotspot on a different 4G device, but still forcing them to use a slower network for larger downloads seems kind of dumb.

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I'm not sure , sticking numbers after something is a fairly universal thing. Movies, video games and most software has been doing this for a while.

The farther away from this Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch nonsense, the happier I'll be. I think the reason people misattribute Apple's success to marketing is because everyone else's marketing is just godawful. And no, I didn't make that name up.

I can believe it , most laptops have names that are pretty much impossible to remember which in turn makes it very difficult to recommend a specific model to anybody not to mention uninspiring.

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Exactly, Apple sells around 2mil+ Macs/Qtr most of which are laptops however they sell 15+mil iPads. It's easier to get volume deals on 15 million displays then it is 1-2mil.

Actually, I would think it would be the inverse. 1 million of anything is a volume order. 15 million of something means that the supplier has to build a new factory.

The cost is mostly in the tooling. So, if you are doing 1 million units and running your tooling 6000 hours per year, then if the cycle time is less than 20 seconds for any operation, then you are not fully using that piece of equipment. If you are doing 15M units a year, you will need to design/build/buy 10-100 units for each manufacturing step. That cuts your cost tremendously, because the custom design and engineering only needs to be done once.

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I think the biggest issue is simply thet desktop operating systems doesn't have good resolution independence. So for most people, a laptop display with more than 1920x1080 will make icons and buttons very small by default. And of course, most people (and businesses) don't care either way and don't want to pay for the price difference.

True. Not even the ones made by Apple. Even after 10 years of shrinking desktop feature sizes. Clearly there is much more money to be made in tablets and mobile than laptops...

> True. Not even the ones made by Apple.

Apple is probably the worst offender on that issue, in fact.

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