So, didn’t use frameworks but then used frameworks? Tailwind and Jinja.
How to build a website without frameworks and tons of libraries
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Re: How to build a website without frameworks and tons of libraries
#182https://key.bio is built with pure html/css/js and hosted/cached on GCP
Re: How to build a website without frameworks and tons of libraries
#183"as simple as possible but no simpler" - (not Albert Einstein, probably) Pure HTML + CSS, with the CSS in the or inline in each html tag... this is a fine way to get something going. And then when you have two pages, you pull the CSS out to a separate file. But once you start making any site which has multiple pages of the same format, you want some kind of template system with includes and a (static page) generator.…
Have you open sourced this or found a similar project?
Does it make an API guy to the google sheets api client side to populate the data, if so is there a caching layer or does each client get a fresh copy.
Re: How to build a website without frameworks and tons of libraries
#184"as simple as possible but no simpler" - (not Albert Einstein, probably) Pure HTML + CSS, with the CSS in the or inline in each html tag... this is a fine way to get something going. And then when you have two pages, you pull the CSS out to a separate file. But once you start making any site which has multiple pages of the same format, you want some kind of template system with includes and a (static page) generator.…
> when you have two I tend to refactor on two, but I've heard that letting DRYness lapse until three tends to be the sweet spot in terms of likeliness to break even in effort. Although I guess pages per site is almost guaranteed to hit 3 anyway, whereas in general a block of code being used 3+ times doesn't necessarily have that same likelihood.
I agree on 2 vs 3, but with CSS and other formatting rules it is too easy to become inconsistent on 2. And I hate inconsistency.
Re: How to build a website without frameworks and tons of libraries
#185"as simple as possible but no simpler" - (not Albert Einstein, probably) Pure HTML + CSS, with the CSS in the or inline in each html tag... this is a fine way to get something going. And then when you have two pages, you pull the CSS out to a separate file. But once you start making any site which has multiple pages of the same format, you want some kind of template system with includes and a (static page) generator.…
Have you open sourced this or found a similar project? Does it make an API guy to the google sheets api client side to populate the data, if so is there a caching layer or does each client get a fresh copy.
I assume it's a hook to rebuild on changes and data is statically embedded during build. Happy to also see the details of OP's work. Sounds great!
Re: How to build a website without frameworks and tons of libraries
#186I fondly remember writing a bottle.py+jinja based dashboard wrapped into a windows utility that allowed to let that run as a service. My first web app, only for my team's internal use, without any autoscaling etc but boy did I have fun writing it!
It's a scale thing - today I would reach for a framework for bigger things but lightweight setups have their own place.
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#187"as simple as possible but no simpler" - (not Albert Einstein, probably) Pure HTML + CSS, with the CSS in the or inline in each html tag... this is a fine way to get something going. And then when you have two pages, you pull the CSS out to a separate file. But once you start making any site which has multiple pages of the same format, you want some kind of template system with includes and a (static page) generator.…
Have you open sourced this or found a similar project? Does it make an API guy to the google sheets api client side to populate the data, if so is there a caching layer or does each client get a fresh copy.
I have not open sourced it. I probably wouldn't go to that trouble, but I might write a good blog post illustrating it.
The Google Sheet has a script associated with a button which the sheet editor uses to "publish" the changes. That triggers a rebuild on Netlify, and the build does the sheet data fetch. This was better than automatically triggering the build on sheet save, since the save happens within a second or two of every change.
Netlify has an unpublished URL trigger to force a rebuild, and that URL requires no authentication. Thus, one must be careful about making that URL public. But worst case scenario, the free tier Netlify build credits get used up for a period.
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#188Kind of annoying to see tailwind mentioned practically as a footnote when it clearly enables a huge amount of productivity for a system like like this. Styling is easily half of the work for most web development, even for the simplest websites.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm with you. Jinja and watchdog.py taking somefile.src.html -> somefile.html feels a bit static-site-gen-ish.
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Can you please stop posting unsubstantive comments? We're trying for something different here.
Re: How to build a website without frameworks and tons of libraries
#190> Mind you, Hetzner webhosting starts at 2 EUR! How crazy is that? Oh yeah? and netlify is totally free for an infinite amount of sites! how crazy is that? > We use a short Python script with exactly 45 lines of code. Including comments and blank lines. > > In summary, this is the simple toolchain for building our web: > > Developer updates index.src.html > Watchdog.py detects the file change and ... > ... renders Ji…
Take a deep breath and go for a walk, there's no reason an inconsequential blog post should make you this angry.
Anyone who has spent a good chunk of their life trying to keep things as minimal as possible after being “inspired” by such articles can understand the reaction. There’s no reason a sensible comment, even if it’s a bit emotionally charged, should trigger your zen master spidey sense. I’m sure they’re speaking from experience and are trying to prevent others from taking the oh so tempting bait.