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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by bozhark »

Waterluvian wrote: post #106
extr wrote: post #42

I remember signing up for Reddit as a college freshman. I was a digg user and joined Reddit in the aftermath of that fiasco. I sometimes laugh looking over my post history for the past decade plus. If you read the posts linearly, you can trace my evolution from a kid arguing passionately over politics and culture (things he didn't really know much about), to a more mature young adult who rarely waded into discussions…

If we’re having a wake… I remember when I accidentally became a moderator of /r/science because they asked for variety of domain expertise and I’m a geographer and c’mon… nobody’s a geographer. It was a fun experience. Then became an educational one. Then frustrating. Then thankless. Then I stopped. I’m happy for the lessons. I’m sad it died years ago.

2015

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by bentcorner »

SantalBlush wrote: post #141
doublepg23 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can trace my earliest account to middle school. You can imagine the cringe on there...

If every Reddit user was tagged with their age, it would be an eye-opening experience. "Why is this 16-year-old talking about divorce lawyers on r/relationship_advice?"

> "Why is this 16-year-old talking about divorce lawyers on r/relationship_advice?"

The opposite has occurred and it wasn't very pretty to look at.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by klardotsh »

GoofballJones wrote: post #114

So many sites and companies have turned on the users that put them on the map. Twitter, Red Hat, Reddit. It's like they're saying "we don't need the users anymore."

They're all panicking for money. Modern capitalism demands not just stable businesses, not just profit, but quarterly increasing profits for all of eternity. This is obviously-to-anyone-who-isn't-a-grifter impossible and company after company will die being forced to chase it.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by bentcorner »

shagie wrote: post #82
MBCook wrote: post #77

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I don’t blame Christian. Spez, on a whim, decided to basically destroy his livelihood, with basically no notice. Then Spez kept doubling down and accused Christian of extortion, repeating the accusations after it was proven they were false. I would sell the app even if they reversed course. I wouldn’t trust they wouldn’t do it again. I wouldn’t trust they’d ruin me some other way. If they had said “we’re doing this i…

I'm not sure how much of a whim Reddit had. A Virginia law was signed into effect on May 12th that required commercial entities that distributed "material harmful to minors" to verify the age of the users or be exposed to civil penalties. That law goes into effect in 3 hours.

There's no possible way this is the cause. Like, at all. The simple sniff test is that blast radius of the passing of this law would be way way way larger than "reddit charges for API". We'd see many other sites follow suit with reddit.

IANAL but I'll put down $100 that this law has nothing to do with reddit's API changes. First person to prove me wrong gets it. I'd like a quote from spez that says, paraphrased "If Virginia didn't pass the law we wouldn't have started charging for the API".

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by bentcorner »

zmmmmm wrote: post #128

If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

I never really got into twitter but mastodon is quite nice.

Lemmy/kbin still have some rough edges in their UI but given enough time I think they'll get there. If any of the big ex-reddit apps turn to the fediverse I think it'll give these communities a big boost.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by echelon »

dom96 wrote: post #50

I am still somewhat shocked that they went through with this. I built a Reddit API[1] alternative as a form of protest, they responded by blocking my personal Reddit account. Very sad what Reddit has become. 1 - https://api.reddiw.com

They banned your personal account?!

Do you have the ability to edit or access your old comments? Is it a shadowban, read-only, or a full block?

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by gremlinsinc »

goykasi wrote: post #135
datenyan wrote: post #96

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I think the bigger issue is that Apollo (and other apps such as RIF) were amazing tools for moderators, with the official app lacking a lot of features the unofficial clients had.

What is missing in the official app? And how many mods are using a mobile app rather than a desktop env? A desktop browser seems like it would be infinitely better than a mobile experience.

can you tell me how to view posts as a gallery? can you also tell me how to create a link with username and subreddit below a post and when you click it, it takes you to the sub or the users profile? Such a simple thing...

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by paxys »

predictabl3 wrote: post #119
shagie wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would have required negotiating image hosting, having a significant amount of server power and storage space, dealing with laws about who can see what, and active moderation until volunteers can be found to moderate the content. Having someone to deal with DMCA requests and age verification laws. If it wasn't a subscription service (that had to front load a lot of its costs), it also involves getting advertisers…

So, are we just pretending like reddit has any of that when it started out?

Apollo is not competing with Reddit when it started out but Reddit today.
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