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A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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Exercise just makes me feel worse. Junk food makes me feel integrated, whole, and calm. My body fucking hates me.

have you tried trailmix and beef jerky instead of junkfood?

Sure have, thanks. Trail mix in the quantities I like just ends up being junk food!

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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I don’t know if this has changed for younger generations, but a lot of people, particularly those in intellectual pursuits, suffer to one degree or another from thinking of themselves as a brain being carried around as a meat sack. We are learning more about mind body connections and this is very not true (the ways the vagus nerve can totally fuck with your mental state is terrifying, and there are people with dysfun…

There are even studies about how gut bacteria can affect brain. Mind-Body distinction is a dead end philosophycel cope.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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I’ve had major clinical depression for the last 15 years or so. The first 4 months of this year was the lowest I’ve ever been. During that time though I was going to the gym 6 days a week doing weight lifting and then I would cycle 50km a day on top of that. All of it was on autopilot however, my depression just wouldn’t allow me to focus on anything but it. Luckily I had been building up the habit for years in advan…

How much were you sleeping at night?

I find that exercise without adequate sleep grinds me down into a twilight zone state of everything seeming a bit unreal.

Last time I had a period similar to yours, the problem was too much screen time on social media and gaming, which was disrupting my sleep.

I cut those out, started feeling tired enough to sleep again, and bounced back to normality.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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MTB has pretty much all the good stuff in one. You're outside, in nature, breathing fresh air, it's cardio and mindfulness on the climbs and flow and focus on the descent, add adrenaline to taste. The community is pretty rad too, it has the atmosphere of surfing and hiking combined.

Please tell me more. You might influence someone to try a new hobby

The ancestor comments are spot on. I just wish it didn't require driving. The good stuff is 10+ miles from where I live. Not that far, but it's still burning gas just to ride a bike.

I also suggest XC / blue / "intermediate" / rolling trails. They're less exposed and dangerous than steep descents, and better cardio. The MTB industry and press is increasingly downhill-oriented, but you can ignore that noise. Before you buy a bike, try renting a few, and riding them on your own local trails. It'll give you a better idea of what sort of bike and riding you want. If you don't have much singletrack nearby but you have dirt roads, consider a gravel or "all-terrain" road bike instead (like a Kona Dew, Kona Rove, or Hudski Doggler). It's not mountain biking, but still a lot of fun, and you cover more ground. (They're also simpler and cheaper than modern mountain bikes.)

Bike fit is important, take your time to get it right. Don't buy the wrong frame size! (I've made that mistake at least twice.) Find a shop (or experienced friend) to help you dial in the fit, and expect to swap some parts. This (and physical conditioning) makes the difference between riding kind of hurting, and being comfy on the bike for 2+ hours.

Obviously you can get hurt. MTB injuries tend to be less severe than road cycling, because you aren't riding in car traffic. But several years ago I tore out my triceps, going over the front of the bike in a rock garden and landing on my elbow. That was a surgery and slow recovery. I'm fine now, and even with that injury, cycling has been a benefit to my health and enjoyment of life.

It can be a gear-intensive hobby. I have a mostly-bikes room. It can also be an expensive hobby (though doesn't need to be). Still much cheaper than motorcycles, sailing, and so forth.

Sorry, one last thing. Be courteous to hikers. Yield to them by default, call out if approaching them from behind. Making hikers feel safe and respected is more important than carrying your speed. When riders forget this, angry hikers show up to meetings and agitate for closing trails to bikes.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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Exercise just makes me feel worse. Junk food makes me feel integrated, whole, and calm. My body fucking hates me.

The trinity is exercise, nutrition and sleep.

If your sleep or nutrition is trash, exercise will help you identify that.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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The benefits of exercise are abundant and I don't know many that would argue against that. If exercise is so beneficial to the whole being, why is it such a difficult thing for us to implement regularly on a long-term basis? Even during periods of life where I've been in a good routine with working out, there still seems to be some sort of internal resistance to going to "do the thing."

The brain tries to minimize energy expenditure due to evolutionary factors and only wants to expend energy if absolutely necessary. Therefore you need to trick your brain into doing the right thing.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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A lot of people feel like “they” are somewhere inside their head. They look out at the world through eyes that are windows. The world is out there, “I” am in here. In this undefined black hole of “me”, mysterious, but definitely separate from the world and what’s “out there” past one’s eyes. They feel like their bodies are just the mechanical thing that carries them around. They don’t think of the systemic impact of…

One really cool question for people is, where do you feel 'you' are - where the core of you are physically. For many people 'you' is like a tension point in your head just behind the eyes. For me it is more in the middle of my chest. This is considered odd in the western world but it is not unheard of. I am not my mind, I am not my ego, I am but a wave in the universe, it comes - it goes it will pass - enjoy it for a…

for me it's just above the solar plexus

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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I don’t know if this has changed for younger generations, but a lot of people, particularly those in intellectual pursuits, suffer to one degree or another from thinking of themselves as a brain being carried around as a meat sack. We are learning more about mind body connections and this is very not true (the ways the vagus nerve can totally fuck with your mental state is terrifying, and there are people with dysfun…

I like this comment and am intrigued by your dance experience. Meditation, however has exposed to me that I am certainly not (just) the body. To feel like I “am” something at all is both an assumption and the final hurdle.
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