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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by nanidin »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #89
bnralt wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

8 years ago a bunch of Reddits went dark to protest the firing of Victoria Taylor. The AMA sub claimed that they wouldn't be able to continue without Victoria's help. Eventually the sub opened back up and things continued as they had before; the average user noticed no difference. If you told people today that Reddit AMA's hadn't been working for the past 8 years because the company fired an employee then, they'd pro…

> the average user noticed no difference I think the general consensus among Reddit is that AMA's were a lot higher quality back then.

AMA’s now are thinly veiled publicity events - like celebrities dialing into your local radio show to shill their latest project. There is rarely any feeling of actual engagement in modern AMA’s.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by Firmwarrior »

okeuro49 wrote: post #95
revscat wrote: post #35

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This was my thought as well. To answer your question, though, I imagine bad faith actors of various flavors will be flocking the site: 1. Corporate marketing departments 2. Unpopular political/religious factions seeking to surreptitiously "move the needle" 3. Those who wanted to become mods before but didn't make the cut for completely valid reasons. Now they have an opportunity, only the quality will decrease as a r…

> 2. Unpopular political/religious factions seeking to surreptitiously "move the needle" How would that be different from the status quo?

Comeon man. Sure, there's a lot of evidence that Ghislaine Maxwell was one of the elite super-mods and gently pushed acceptance of pedophilia, but it's all circumstantial at best

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by themaninthedark »

jayd16 wrote: post #27
themaninthedark wrote: post #18

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It sounds to me like there are Top Mods who want to continue the boycott, with others who don't and that Reddit is looking at giving the other mods a path forward. One of the things I have noticed is that the boycott is not from the users but from the mods of the community. Even if the community had a vote, if you want to boycott fine but they are forcing others to go along with with them. So either they are not the…

You'd end up with unmoderated subs if the mods just went on strike.

And that would then be Reddit's problem would it not?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by PepperdineG »

mulletbum wrote: post #32
p4bl0 wrote: post #7

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Classic attempt to break a strike. Would mods be employee, this would be illegal (at least in France). This shows how Reddit the company think how the people who work for them for free on Reddit the platform and make its value.

Mods don't work for Reddit. They volunteer for Reddit moderation. Much like you can volunteer to be the leader of the DND club at a local hobby shop. They are not an employee. People who don't like what Reddit is doing should stop showing up. Mods who don't like it should stop moderating. It's as simple as that, if enough people agree, Reddit will be no more. I will bet Reddit will be just fine.

>Mods don't work for Reddit. They volunteer for Reddit moderation. Much like you can volunteer to be the leader of the DND club at a local hobby shop. They are not an employee.

DND has no control over people doing DND at a local hobby shop, but if Reddit gets directly involved in hiring and firing and other such management of free labor then it is setting up to be viewed as an employer. There are many differences between an unaffiliated 3rd party club and direct corporate involvement in personnel management where the more Reddit tries to manage its free labor, the more it runs the risk of running afoul of FLSA. Under labor law there is a difference in working for free for a non-profit, government, etc versus a for-profit entity where they are not the same when it comes to providing free labor and FLSA rights cannot be waived away.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by lm28469 »

wil421 wrote: post #70
p4bl0 wrote: post #7

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Classic attempt to break a strike. Would mods be employee, this would be illegal (at least in France). This shows how Reddit the company think how the people who work for them for free on Reddit the platform and make its value.

How does that work for online French Forums or other internet platforms that are community based? What about old school BBSes?

A strike is very well defined, a "volunteer moderator strike" doesn't constitute a strike from a legal perspective

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by johnny22 »

EA-3167 wrote: post #174
anigbrowl wrote: post #124

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More seriously, the other day someone spent significant time and effort trying to convince me that the new version of The Wonder Years featuring a black family was anti-white propaganda by The Jews. If he's a reddit user I'm sure he'd love to mod a sub with such a large community.

I feel like the crazies ranting about "white erasure" are making it harder to criticize these race-reboots on the grounds they should be criticized for: laziness. Mediocre products where the selling point is, "we swapped races, give us points," remain mediocre and are unbelievably lazy compared to what we should see... which is new and interesting things with diversity baked in. Unfortunately the hysterical racists a…

I just let it be "lazy" as you say as the rest of tons of other stuff is lazy and don't bother to think to much about it. I'd rather focus on stuff I actually like.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by BizarroLand »

alecco wrote: post #151
mjamesaustin wrote: post #23

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I was confused at first by the federated nature of Lemmy, but making an account was easy and I'm thoroughly enjoying it now. The important thing to note – even though you join a particular Lemmy "instance", it doesn't particularly matter which one, because you can subscribe to communities (subreddits) from any instance. The instance I joined – vlemmy.net An aggregator of communities to join – https://lemmyverse.net/c…

Seems lemmy community has some issues. https://www.jayeless.net/2023/06/on-reddit-and-alternatives....

Those issues (per the article) being that it's not a perfected platform yet and that it's slightly different than reddit.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by nkuttler »

rvense wrote: post #14
EA-3167 wrote: post #2

That's a hell of a way to treat the volunteers who make the existence of that site possible.

On the one hand, I think this a stupid decision for Reddit, that it's disrespectful and very bad for the internet. On the other hand, if it's what they're going to do, then that's how it is. You can't really expect them to just leave a namespace like, say, /r/politics in the hands of someone who openly says they aren't going to use it. So of course they're going to remove mods who stick to a blackout, what else could…

> in the hands of someone who openly says they aren't going to use it

Closing it IS using it, in a very public and visible way. They just don't like HOW it is used by the people who built it.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by mountainb »

civilitty wrote: post #73
revscat wrote: post #35

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This was my thought as well. To answer your question, though, I imagine bad faith actors of various flavors will be flocking the site: 1. Corporate marketing departments 2. Unpopular political/religious factions seeking to surreptitiously "move the needle" 3. Those who wanted to become mods before but didn't make the cut for completely valid reasons. Now they have an opportunity, only the quality will decrease as a r…

Finally, I can fulfill my destiny of taking over r/television and banning anyone who says anything positive about a show with a laugh track. It should never have been allowed to begin with.

I support you in your quest.
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