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Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

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Post by plantroon »

hgsgm wrote: post #89
plantroon wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wedos. I migrated my domains from namecheap due to their problematic setting of glue records for IPv6. I'd say Wedos is no-bs enough. I hope referral is not a problem on HN: https://www.wedos.com/?ap=Fy1vRJ

> problematic setting of glue records for IPv6. What's this?

Whenever I needed to change IPv6 glue records I had to contact support. And even after that, the webUI did not reflect the current configuration, so I couldn't even change IPv4 glue records after that. Other than that I was ok with namecheap.

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Post by whizzter »

ryanjshaw wrote: post #39
whizzter wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Existing customers will retain the free service for renewals done for the next month until they shut it down, and even then the cost of the new email service is a fraction of what you pay for Microsofts or Google custom domain emails. I have a mailbox there for my domain so I hope they can introduce some easy way to just pre-pay for a longer period.

Their premium email service will be $5.99/mo going forward. The equivalent Exchange Online plan is $4.80/mo in year 1 (or $4 with 12mo commitment), then additional $12/yr for the custom domain i.e. $5.80/mo in year 2 - that's cheaper than Gandi?

Ah you're correct, I just quickly entered Gandi's email page and saw the 0.35 eur a month price (linked to current "old" service) but didn't go through the linked price-list.

That does suck, it's not really a huge amount but a tad much for _just_ email (compared to Google Apps or MS365).

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Post by marchukov »

Can anybody recommend an alternative with the following:

  1. EU/EEA/Switzerland
  2. DNSSEC
  3. DNS hosting (with DNSSEC support)
  4. WebAuth/FIDO2 2nd factor (with ability to add multiple keys and recovery codes)
Right now Gandi meets all those for me, but it is always nice to explore something new.

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Post by codethief »

_cenw wrote: post #53
codethief wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And another one, for 18 years.

They once gave my data to law enforcement without notifying me, with no obligations not to notify me. It wasn't even an investigation into me, but a shotgun "everyone who talked about this gets asked to testify" case, specifically into a Witcher 3 Google Drive leak. That aside, they're fine.

> They once gave my data to law enforcement without notifying me, with no obligations not to notify me.

"Your data", like what? The domains you own and their full whois entries?

> with no obligations not to notify me

While this might be true, they might have seen a risk in notifying you (at least while investigations were ongoing), consider e.g. https://dejure.org/gesetze/StGB/258.html

Also, how did you come to know about all this? Who notified you in the end?

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Post by BostonEnginerd »

kaivi wrote: post #143
aendruk wrote: post #3

No forewarning, no post on the website, no justification, and the nasty news buried in the middle of unrelated text. It appears designed to deceive. “No bullshit” is no more. https://www.gandi.net/en/no-bullshit That promise is what justified their slightly higher prices. With it broken, I have no reason not to transfer to a less expensive registrar. So that I’ve now done, and Gandi can try to win me back next year.

My only experience with Gandi was awful. Bought a bunch of domains from them after they were praised here on HN, was assured that WHOIS privacy is enabled by default and without any extra fees. Looked up the WHOIS records a minute later, and my phone number, name and email were all there. Those were .com, .org and .net domains.

I had exactly the same thing happen. Ended up moving all my domains to another registrar after that happened.

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Post by Tutanota »

mongrelion wrote: post #158
Tutanota wrote: post #90

Hi, Tutanota team here. In case you're looking for a new mailbox, Tutanota might be an option. We've also had a pricing update recently, but legacy users are allowed to keep what they have in full. Plus, we have a 50% offer running at the moment: https://tutanota.com/blog/announcement-new-prices

Great to see you guys here. I have been considering moving my mailbox to Tutanota but last time I checked it was not possible to import emails. What's the progress on that?

We are already working on import and are making nice progress: https://twitter.com/TutanotaTeam/status/1651944687488446467

However, there's a lot work left to be done as we do not want to simply dump all the emails in one folder, but match the folders that you had used previously. Because of this, the release is a few more months into the future. Thanks for your patience!

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Post by _cenw »

codethief wrote: post #184
_cenw wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They once gave my data to law enforcement without notifying me, with no obligations not to notify me. It wasn't even an investigation into me, but a shotgun "everyone who talked about this gets asked to testify" case, specifically into a Witcher 3 Google Drive leak. That aside, they're fine.

> They once gave my data to law enforcement without notifying me, with no obligations not to notify me. "Your data", like what? The domains you own and their full whois entries? > with no obligations not to notify me While this might be true, they might have seen a risk in notifying you (at least while investigations were ongoing), consider e.g. https://dejure.org/gesetze/StGB/258.html Also, how did you come to know…

> "Your data", like what? The domains you own and their full whois entries?

Single domain in, WHOIS data out.

> While this might be true, they might have seen a risk in notifying you (at least while investigations were ongoing), consider e.g. https://dejure.org/gesetze/StGB/258.html

I have a copy of the correspondence from Bundesamt fuer Justiz.

> Also, how did you come to know about all this? Who notified you in the end?

The cops questioning me did. I was actually under investigation for a different thing related to this website, so my lawyer got them to confirm it was indeed possibly related. They then dropped that investigation immediately, after months of nothing being added to the file (which I also have). While holding a pretty substantial bit of my hardware hostage. Weird how police work can be expedited when charges are obviously based on police not understanding how the internet (and Paragraph 10 TMG) works and they need to get something done for BfJ. Or maybe they did understand, but didn't want to afford those protections to an individual without commercial interest.

Mind that this was about 10 years ago by now.

Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

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Post by ownagefool »

vel0city wrote: post #149
bombcar wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was preparing to flee free google apps for domains during the recent kerfuffle, the cheapest overall really was Exchange Online (it's a basic email-only option). For a single user and single domain, it's just $56 a year. Next best was proton mail (seems it's a bit cheaper now, $48/yr)

Zoho Mail seems like a pretty cheap deal. $1.25/user/month 1yr commitment for their 10GB/user email + calendar + contacts support according to the website. It says it can do Exchange ActiveSync and IMAP for connecting. This is currently my target for migrating my few email accounts. I'd love to hear arguments for another service that's cheaper than that for just a few accounts. I don't really want/need all the extra…

iCloud+ 50gb $0.99/month

I haven't used it and not sure if it even has a web client, but for the 99c you can use a custom domain according to the ads.

Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

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Post by Anthony-G »

lockhouse wrote: post #61
aendruk wrote: post #3

No forewarning, no post on the website, no justification, and the nasty news buried in the middle of unrelated text. It appears designed to deceive. “No bullshit” is no more. https://www.gandi.net/en/no-bullshit That promise is what justified their slightly higher prices. With it broken, I have no reason not to transfer to a less expensive registrar. So that I’ve now done, and Gandi can try to win me back next year.

If a company goes out of their way to tell you how ethical they are, they probably aren't.

I haven't downvoted you but making a blanket statement like this is unfair. Some companies are founded explicitly to provide a more ethical product or service. If they don't market themselves based on their unique selling point, they'll either go out of business or be bought out by their less ethical competitors who can compete on price. Such is the nature of capitalism.

Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

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Post by Anthony-G »

breput wrote: post #2

The text in the link was sent to Gandi users via email today, although they purposefully buried the significant domain registration price increases with the GandiMail bs text. The actual price increases are listed here[0]. For example, currently a .com domain can be renewed for $17.75/year (tax inclusive - I personally renewed a .com domain for the maximum of 4 years tonight). After the increase this will be $23.99/y…

I can see how for some people, it might make sense to pay the higher prices if they also get value from their email services and/or DNS hosting.

I run my own name server on my VPS so I chose Gandi because they provide free secondary name servers – but then discovered that their secondary name servers don’t support NOTIFY (or IXFR). Instead they make an AXFR transfer on a fixed schedule – that’s too slow for Let’s Encrypt DNS authentication.

So far, I’ve stayed with them because I don’t have many domains registered and I appreciate their commitment to security of user accounts: the ability to lock domains, and MFA support. These are now standard but I also have my account to set up to only allow logins from various IP network ranges.

Edit: Also, their web interface for managing domains was intuitive and easy-to-use (no dark patterns). It was particularly easy to configure glue records for my primary name server.

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