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Re: Intravenous Caffeine

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Fun fact: people have died from buttchugging (alcoholics will pour beer into their butts to get drunk quicker)

It's significantly more dangerous than drinking to excess since it sidesteps vomiting.

I thought the danger was from the fact that it doesn't get processed by the intestine so you cop the full force of the ABV.

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> Go to Europe and you don’t get pain medication unless you’re in the hospital. Where on Earth did you get this idea?

Go look at opioid prescriptions by country. Europe is way lower than the US. Plenty of anecdotes about how hard it is to get opioid prescriptions in Europe. I'm not saying it's wrong , I'm just it's lower than the US, yet less religious, which pretty much blows up OP's thesis.

But you said "pain medication", many forms of which are sold OTC in Europe just like basically everywhere else. Now that you've narrowed it to "opioids", sure...

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I had heard that there's a community of people who insufflate caffeine on Reddit, but this one is news to me. Seems a little funny to go through all the trouble and extreme stigma of injecting yourself with an IV drug, only to pick ground up coffee beans as your poison of choice (!) The study is interesting mostly for the fact that someone tried it, but ultimately the results don't show a very strong effect. I wouldn…

Snorting caffeine is one of the most comparable ways to realize that it's just as "safe" as cocaine.

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I see several issues here, but I think it is extremely important that no one leaves thinking Valium is the most powerful muscle relaxant available. Valium is a centrally acting muscle relaxant, among others. It is very difficult to kill someone with an overdose, mostly interactions with other drugs. The best muscle relaxant / antispasmodic depends on the patient and the situation. Valium is a safe indication from som…

All I know is that that is what the ER doc told me, and it worked wonders.

It's possible the ER doc meant most powerful that he could legally prescribe given the clinical presentation; or perhaps he was just saying that because you don't give someone medication and say "well, you just got a basic painkiller, it's near the end of the its use-by, maybe it'll work", you say "We're giving you the best". It's the placebo effect, albeit with a medication that should work regardless.

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Combined the effect is stronger than each on its own. Caffeine takes ~15 minutes to work. Sadly no source handy but i once read that naps are most effective below 15 minutes. Above it is possible to enter deeper sleep states and wake up worse than before.

So when people talk about napping like this, do they ever actually "fall asleep"? I cannot possibly imagine falling asleep in 15m in the middle of my work day or whatever.

I don't fall asleep. But just lying in bed, eyes closed, sleepmask on and low Binaural Beats on the ears helps me when i feel a slump. When i set a timer to 12 minutes i usually feel the urge to get up after roughly ten minutes.

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At a meeting where Electronic Medical Records was on the agenda, I happened to have been sitting next to a manager involved with that and joked about that you can't take ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code T43.616A ( Underdosing of caffeine, initial encounter https://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/S00-T88/T36-T50/T43/... ) to Starbucks with a prescription. He chuckled a bit and told a tale of when he actually had that show up…

If that was US what did it cost? Possibly the most expensive coffee of his life!

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Starbucks is like $5 per 100-200mg. IV caffeine is like $500 per 100-200mg.

And pills are like $0 per 100-200mg, so we know why the hospital didn't just use those.

> [cup of coffee] which he couldn't have

Probably 'nil by mouth' (pre-op or something) not just no fluids/coffee.

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Is there anything other than THC in those gummies? Many of the effects might depend on non-THC cannabinoids. Also, for some reason, some effects happen upon smoking or vaping but not through edibles. There are various theories about why, but it's all very complicated.

Part of my experimentation was to try many different doses, just thc, thc + cbd in various ratios, ones claiming to have "live rosin" or whatnot. I did finally try a real joint -- of course it hits much faster, but the lung irritation and health concerns weren't worth it. I'm a bit jealous of people who have a great time. A guy in the band I'm in is 45 and has been a daily smoker for 30 years. He is highly functionin…

Some people just don't have the brain chemistry for it, I suppose.

I'm kind of jealous of your friend. I've been a daily smoker before, and I'm usually able to like do simple tasks and such. But I just get too lazy and dysfunctional. And I feel dumber. Part of me is drawn to that because it's so much easier to be dumb. But I also depend on working memory to make a living and also for my favourite hobbies. Eventually I learned that the only thing that actually works is occasional use. I can't be completely abstinent because then I never actually learn moderation, and I just end up binging again. But if I know I can enjoy myself if I want to, I don't have to be constantly thinking "fuck I want some weed". And then when I do finally give in, there's this shame spiral about it that leads to binging. Whereas now I can just smoke if I feel like it, have a great night of sleep and go on with my life the next day.

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

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> Go to Europe and you don’t get pain medication unless you’re in the hospital. Where on Earth did you get this idea?

Go look at opioid prescriptions by country. Europe is way lower than the US. Plenty of anecdotes about how hard it is to get opioid prescriptions in Europe. I'm not saying it's wrong , I'm just it's lower than the US, yet less religious, which pretty much blows up OP's thesis.

Opioids are only really safe to use in a hospital, by and large.

The exception seems to be fentanyl, which gets handed out to old ladies with dodgy hips who chug it like milk.

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