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Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by nailer »

deltree7 wrote: post #175
nailer wrote: post #170

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Worked at Google, pro Elon, anti Zuck but mainly for his failures (Metaverse), not from the far left and still think it's clear Google's last major product (major meaning category defining, like Search or Maps or Android) was 15 years ago.

Lot of Googlers are anti-big-tech, anti-corporation :) 1) If you think Transformers weren't category defining, I don't know what to say. 2) Metaverse isn't a failure. That's like saying in 2019, "Chat Agents are a failure"

1. Wow you think transformers are a product like Search and Maps and Android are. That's great.

2. I think most people consider both Metaverse and chat agents as failures. ChatGPT isn't a 'chat agent' and most chat agents still don't work.

Watching the keynote and Google are expecting developers to cut and paste code into Bard rather than releasing a Bard plugin for code editors and taking on Microsoft directly. Weak.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by VirusNewbie »

revelio wrote: post #101
gman83 wrote: post #92

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I've noticed that the sentiment on HN tends to skew heavily against Google and more towards Apple. When I go to in-person tech meetups it's usually not at all like that. Not sure why.

It's an expectations mismatch. Google used to be the most loved company by developers. It was confident, strong, did wonders for dev comp and gave away lots of cool stuff for free. The only way from there was down, really. Then they did a bunch of things that upset people like getting buy-in into platforms and products only to then constantly kill them off, refuse to release their AI models as APIs on the grounds tha…

Great analysis. Stability of culture means no room to disappoint like Google.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by VirusNewbie »

verdverm wrote: post #82
r0m4n0 wrote: post #64

I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

I'm not an Apple follower, what innovation have they produced in the last 5+ years that the sibling comments deride Google for? I would argue the TPU is far more interesting than the M1, other than that, is it not just marginal improvements on existing products?

Airpods are in a category of their own. Multibillion dollar business that redefined the headphone industry

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by mock-possum »

r0m4n0 wrote: post #64

I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

> a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced

man I don't know about everybody else but I'm pretty burned out on the never-ending deluge of AI-related chatter at this point.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by basisword »

r0m4n0 wrote: post #64

I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

>> Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad

Were we reading the same thread? My take away was mostly complaints about subscriptions and people asking why you would use it on an iPad instead of a laptop.

I think the problem here is that this was posted hours before the keynote - meaning there is actually nothing of value to discuss yet. Now the thread that should be about todays even is full of “back in my day” comments.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by atonse »

mooreds wrote: post #44
danwee wrote: post #2

I was very enthusiastic about Google I/O in the past (around the year 2010). Full of nice tech talks; I learned a lot. These years, I couldn't care less. It's all business talk. I guess developers are not the target audience anymore (and for newcomers, perhaps the "I/O" may be misleading).

It wasn't always tech talks. I remember going to Google I/O in 2008 and sitting in a bean bag chair about 30 feet from "Flight of The Conchords", who were performing live. Fun times. Ah, look, I blogged about it: https://www.mooreds.com/wordpress/archives/475

I was at Google IO 2008. Amazing times. Wore the t-shirt until it was so badly faded and torn.

But back then Google was at the forefront of open standards and pushing the web forward. It was an exciting time for sure.

Far from the Google of today who can’t seem to run a project for more than a couple years.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by menus »

httpz wrote: post #179

I went to Google IO in 2014 and it was very exciting as a young engineer. Google Glass, Google Cardboard, Modular Smartphone, 3D space scanning tablet, Android Wear, and Android Auto were all announced there. Now it seems Android Wear never really took off and Android Auto is the only product that made it to somewhat mainstream. I'm not seeing much exciting experimental projects from Google anymore but maybe I'm just…

Hard to be enthusiastic about announcements from Google when there's a substantial chance of that product hitting https://killedbygoogle.com/ in 2 years.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by deltree7 »

badrequest wrote: post #178
deltree7 wrote: post #152

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How do you have time in the day for anything other than wild assumptions about strangers?

If you have a near perfect model of the universe, it isn't hard to predict stuff. It just needs prompting.

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