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Swartz. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
I must be watching too much Spaceballs
Np, it's an easy thing to get wrong. I'm just trying to stop propagation of the wrong information.
Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started
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Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started
#182I don’t really want to listen to the podcast, but I do seem to recall that Reddit drew heavy inspiration from the delicious popular page. digg was talked about a bunch but much smaller… https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1389494
Interesting note to see that Paul Graham initially hated the name Reddit lol
What's your take now, pg?
(summon(pg))
Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started
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But modern reddit isn't really very similar to what they're mocking? Here's the joke mockup: https://sp.reddit.com/reddit2mockup.jpg Open reddit now and there's no silly unusable tag clouds, no top-of-page ads, no 3rd-party ad serving, no gradients, no overdone logo, no tagline, no allcaps headings, no giant voting arrows...
Let’s admit modern Reddit is probably half porn and only fans site. I don’t have quantifiable data but the way I see people on Twitter complain about porn on Twitter. I can only assume.
That's even farther from "basically became everything the founders mocked when they first started it"!
Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started
#184I don’t really want to listen to the podcast, but I do seem to recall that Reddit drew heavy inspiration from the delicious popular page. digg was talked about a bunch but much smaller… https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1389494
Joshua, Delicious/popular was mentioned a bunch of times in the podcast as a main inspiration. I'll send you a transcript someday if I can arrange it :)
Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started
#185I don’t really want to listen to the podcast, but I do seem to recall that Reddit drew heavy inspiration from the delicious popular page. digg was talked about a bunch but much smaller… https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1389494
Right, and before Digg people used to hang out on MetaFilter, then Usenet etc. Each was in its own way only a small upgrade over the previous one.
Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started
#186I ask myself on a weekly basis when old.reddit.com will disappear. And there is nothing more cruel than the new Reddit, UI-wise. Even Twitter's "threading" of conversations appears to make more sense, even though I have still not figured out how it works.
When r/drama was given the boot, they made a simple reddit clone and open sourced it. I participate in a forum that uses it instead of phpbb or whatever. Works fantastic, but you may have to change the default styling, which was very um, dramatic, from what I've heard.
Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started
#187Most of social platforms are nothing but feature AOL back in the day. They got a different look and feel. Some are cross over of ICQ and AOL (WhatsApp) AOL messenger Chat rooms (discord, telegram) Twitter is nothing but public chat room.
Heh, you may not be old enough to recall BBSs or PCLink?
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> What everyone on Hacker News seems to long for is an Internet limited to 'that class' of people. Yep, that is exactly what I want. I want to be around and interact with other educated people who act in good faith and I don't want to be around uneducated people who act in bad faith or can't see or aren't open to the contradictions in their own ideas. Eternal September is the name of this idea: https://en.wikipedia.o…
Why are you phrasing things as if "educated" and "good faith" are related? > I don't want to be around uneducated people who act in bad faith Are you fine with being around educated people who act in bad faith? Those generally cause much more damage.
In the game of prisoners dilemma, I want to be around people who practice the winning strategy.
A game to demonstrate why that is important: https://ncase.me/trust/
If you cooperate when others defect, you promote defection as a strategy.
If you defect when others cooperate, you undermine cooperation as a winning strategy.
So a community that shut down defectors and cooperates by default creates a community based around cooperation -- a high trust community.
Bad faith is another word for defection. It is hard to understand the game you are playing or see the consequences of your actions without education.
Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started
#189Listened to this episode on a road trip yesterday and really enjoyed it. If you do a "part 2", I'm curious to hear more details about how they pulled off the growth of Reddit, broadening from an initial niche community into a wider collection of communities. Thanks jl and clevy!
They got multiple migration waves from digg, added subreddits, then network effects started. Early Reddit was pretty boring unless you were interested in programming or technology. The first big bump in users from digg was during the HD-DVD key fracas. The ham-handed response by digg to even talking about the key leak pissed off a lot of users. They were already simmering due to astroturfing/Payola by "power users" (…
Digg wrapping external sites in an iframe was also a big stumble.
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He did it in a pretty obvious way and said he did it basically but yah
He did it, then got caught, then admitted to it. The one mitigating point is that he did say he was sorry and that he wouldn't do it again. Mind, I'm saying this as somebody who deleted my account over this exact incident (straw that broke the camel's back), but there it is.
Oh, I'm not defending him.