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AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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Remember how 5G was supposed to support "the metaverse"?[1] I've been working on a high performance metaverse client. All Rust, all multi-threaded. Designed to max out a gamer PC. Supports Second Life and Open Simulator. Second Life had a reputation for being sluggish. Fixing that. I'm pulling content from the servers at 200Mb/s, sustained. 400Mb/s in tests, but don't need to go that fast. The servers (AWS front-ende…

As I learned the hard way once, when AT&T say “unlimited” they mean up to a certain amount for data. Y’know. Like how Olive Garden offers unlimited breadsticks but then when you get your bill they charge you $40 for each breadstick over the unlimited amount of 2.

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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I had this problem with Boost Mobile for phones. Apple Store and various podcast sources seemed ultra-throttled and often wouldn't even want to load at all.

Eventually switched to Mint and problem went away. Maybe a fluke, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was some shaping BS

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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post #96

Remember how 5G was supposed to support "the metaverse"?[1] I've been working on a high performance metaverse client. All Rust, all multi-threaded. Designed to max out a gamer PC. Supports Second Life and Open Simulator. Second Life had a reputation for being sluggish. Fixing that. I'm pulling content from the servers at 200Mb/s, sustained. 400Mb/s in tests, but don't need to go that fast. The servers (AWS front-ende…

As I learned the hard way once, when AT&T say “unlimited” they mean up to a certain amount for data. Y’know. Like how Olive Garden offers unlimited breadsticks but then when you get your bill they charge you $40 for each breadstick over the unlimited amount of 2.

A literal case of there being no such thing as free lunch.

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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It definitely looks like testing sites are prioritized. The fastest download speed that I have gotten is maybe 7 MB (bytes) per second; generally it is 2-5 MB per second. The speed test sites generally get 100 Mb per second dowload. In general the best I seem to get is about half the speed of the speed test sites. To me the real speed of the ISP is how fast one can download something one wants, not the result of a te…

I personally like https://speed.cloudflare.com since it just looks like you're doing typical CloudFlare traffic. The results viewer is also quite nice.

Very cool! I never knew about this! I really appreciate the latency during upload test. I've bookmarked this and will stop using speedtest.net. Thank you!

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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There is always a limit even if it's not published.

For what purpose? People can only eat so much. The buffet doesn't have to limit you. And if the buffet isn't limiting you then it's valid for them to say "unlimited".

For what purpose? Polynesians.

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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> While wget is not my goto for command line HTTP fetching It is for me. Is there something better I'm not aware of?

Curl tends to be the standard.

It's what I reach for first. `wget` made for a better gif, though :)

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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> add another home router after it which is completely under your control and let the ISP-provided one only do the most necessary, eg. (DSL modem / ONT) parts. Oh absolutely, I used that trick once in order to use a router that I could configure over web interface instead of Over The Cloud With A Spyware Mobile App (aka Internet Of Shit). Unfortunately my ISP smartened up to this and started cutting the line whenever…

You need to file an FCC complaint about this, Xfinity has an executive response team for all FCC complaints. Document every time you called them and your equipment details.

I didn't have to file a FCC complaint with Xfinity but I had an issue with Arris/Moto surfboard modems and a miswritten boot file some years ago that took weeks to fix. Basically, you can have your own equipment on a dynamic IP'd business account but they automatically default to calling you the asshole for any problems that get reported.

Business class had launched new speed tiers and it broke upstream bonding on my modem, of course they blamed me. So I bought 2 more modems (same model and a different one) and the same things happened as soon as they got provisioned on the account (prior to this on Comcast's provisioning walled garden they'd show the upstream as bonded, but once activated on the account upstream bonding would turn off and speeds went to shit). By this point I had records and emails with like 4 or 5 different people, a useful thread on dslreports, and a very worthless thread on reddit.

I took all this info and CC'd everyone I spoke with in an email to the CEO of Comcast. Executive response had someone up in Massachusetts call me the next day confirming the issue was with their provisioning boot files, and they credited me for like 3 or 4 months of service. Overall I was pissed it was this difficult to escalate but at least once it was in the right office they handled it. It probably helped that this was a business class (which overpays for better support vs residential script readers).

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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Same issue in Canada: our big ISPs historically refuse to peer freely at our domestic IXs like TORIX. So smaller ISP and DCs end up peering with them in the USA and your packets would make circuitous cross-border round trips to go a few km. Some national players do have ports at domestic IXs, but only as backup links or for negotiated (paid?) access. The hazards of ISPs also being backbone providers. (It looks like R…

As far as I can tell, Bell holds its Canadian customers hostage to force peers to pay them for what should be mutually beneficial peering. It does not participate in _ANY_ of the Canadian internet exchanges. Even Rogers connects to TORIX. https://bgp.he.net/AS577#_ix

I know Rogers for a while had 'conditional' peering at Torix, but doing some traceroutes now, more routes are going through Torix than I recall in the past. Seems like they've lightened up over the past couple years.

Too bad the indie ISP market has been decimated. Ebox & Distributel --> Bell. Start --> Telus. Oxio --> Cogeco. VMedia --> Quebecor (Videotron). Mostly only Teksavvy left standing

Indeed with Bell & Telus, you could only peer freely on US soil:

https://www.peeringdb.com/net/1550 https://www.peeringdb.com/net/76

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