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Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by iudqnolq »

3np wrote: post #174
iudqnolq wrote: post #173

It's disgusting for them to say their site should be fine for a healthy individual and that's enough. Not everyone is healthy! And if you're unhealthy and visit a doctor you often won't be instantly cured. > Since admitting that you didn't realise the theme selector was there would make you look silly in front of people you don't even know The theme selector is a link in the footer. It's probably the most subtle thin…

From the top of the front page, the first section leads to half a screenful informing you to choose a theme. It's the first and most prominent showed to new visitors, promoted on top of the front page.

if I control-f for "theme" the first hit is four screenfulls down (phone) and it's a reference in the middle of a long block of text that implies they have themes.

The first prominent mention of themes is a heading six screenfulls down that mocks you for not changing it. It doesn't tell you how to change it.

This site is an explosion of emphasis. They can use massive size and gradients and flashy colors to emphasize their mockery of me. If they choose not to use the same for their theme switcher link I think it's fair to infer they don't want to emphasize it.

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by blowski »

falcolas wrote: post #176
blowski wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which law? Show me.

The Americans with Disabilities Act. From ada.gov: > The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) is a federal civil rights law that prohibits discrimination against people with disabilities in everyday activities. And specific to web sites: https://www.ada.gov/resources/web-guidance/

Where is the discrimination here?

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by nkrisc »

Poppys wrote: post #134
nkrisc wrote: post #99

Couldn't actually read for very long. The content scrolling over the static background image gave me motion sickness. The 1980s theme was the only one I could stand, and the 1990s theme appears to be the same as the Tropical Days theme. All the ones with the background are essentially unusable for me. It's their site, they can do whatever they want, but it's a bit silly to act like there's something wrong with anyone…

Playing Devil's advocate, if the themes are inaccessible, the user can always pick another one. Monochrome might provide the contrast ratio you want.

My recommendation is always accessible by default. If the default theme is not accessible, it may be difficult for the user to switch to one that is.

It's so easy to make a site that is accessible - a blank HTML document with no CSS essentially is. It takes work to make a site that isn't.

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by nkrisc »

photochemsyn wrote: post #133
nkrisc wrote: post #99

Couldn't actually read for very long. The content scrolling over the static background image gave me motion sickness. The 1980s theme was the only one I could stand, and the 1990s theme appears to be the same as the Tropical Days theme. All the ones with the background are essentially unusable for me. It's their site, they can do whatever they want, but it's a bit silly to act like there's something wrong with anyone…

On Firefox, you can just prepend "about:reader?url=" to any web page and you get the plain-text reader view. There's apparently a config setting in the userChrome.css file to make reader available like this on all sites.

That's a good point, and a good tip for when Firefox doesn't prompt it automatically. I'd forgotten entirely about reader mode on Desktop, I do use it all the time on mobile though.

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by falcolas »

blowski wrote: post #182
falcolas wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Americans with Disabilities Act. From ada.gov: > The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) is a federal civil rights law that prohibits discrimination against people with disabilities in everyday activities. And specific to web sites: https://www.ada.gov/resources/web-guidance/

Where is the discrimination here?

> Where is the discrimination here?

Restating the post I originally responded to:

> Should the vast majority of the world who do not have those health issues be deprived of its glory, because there is a minority who - very sadly and unfortunately for them - cannot look at it?

The key words from the comment are: "cannot look at it"

For comparison, some other similar discriminatory phrases from history: "cannot swim in it", "cannot drink from it", "cannot ride on it", "cannot enter it", "cannot buy it"

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by blowski »

falcolas wrote: post #185
blowski wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is the discrimination here?

> Where is the discrimination here? Restating the post I originally responded to: > Should the vast majority of the world who do not have those health issues be deprived of its glory, because there is a minority who - very sadly and unfortunately for them - cannot look at it? The key words from the comment are: "cannot look at it" For comparison, some other similar discriminatory phrases from history: "cannot swim in…

So because they cannot look at the design, that's discrimination, even if they _are_ able to access the content itself? Why don't you take legal action against them?

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by rsync »

gbromios wrote: post #89

I deeply, un-ironically respect their ethos and their hideous, distracting color scheme

Agreed.

I have no idea who "exoticsilicon" are or if they read HN but if they do, free-for-life rsync.net accounts for any of them that care to contact us.

I am already making good use of this particular piece of content:

https://research.exoticsilicon.com/articles/lte_ethernet_bri...

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by phforms »

The only thing that really annoys me about this website is the fixed vibrant background images that interfere with the text. Otherwise, I find it quite refreshing to see something different. I have seen much worse typography on “professional looking” websites tbh.

However, it is not the most accessible of websites and I certainly wouldn’t want to have e.g. Wikipedia be designed like this (oof), but I don’t mind the occassional quirky rebellious web design adventure.

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