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Re: Framework Laptop 16

#181

GPU modularity makes the framework even more interesting for small form factor pc projects. I might pick it up for my re-imagining of the ibm ps/2 laptop.

We would love to see that project! As before, we’re making the key modules possible to get good use of outside of the laptop.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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"Finally!", I wanted to say, but it's not actually out yet. No prices known. No specs given. I've signed up for the newsletter. My personal laptop is getting pretty old now. Really hoping it's not going to be a Fairphone price–performance+usability ratio, but I'm most definitely going to consider this as my first option!

Yes, for today, we’re showing an early developer preview to let folks get started on Expansion Bay and especially Input Module development. We’ll share more information on the laptop this spring and throughout the year.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Playing with configurator what surprise me is that a Windows 11 Pro licence cost 259 Euro. Micro$oft still make a lot of money with windonws =)

So if I buy a computer with Win 11 then I can claim €259 back as long as I wrote it and install Linux? Isn't that how things worked before with Windows-tax automatically applied to all retail computers in major chain stores? That clearly won't work, as one could get free computers ... but what is the situation in getting reimbursements of Windows-tax?

We have the Framework Laptop DIY Edition that ships without an OS or OS license specifically to make sure folks don’t have to do this and can bring the OS that they want.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I wonder if there is a market for a framework gaming laptop. Really hope there is. Also, on another note, I've read this engadget article about how other companies tried to build an upgradeable laptop and failed but I see Framework as a different kind of beast for one simple reason. This is their only value proposition, they don't have an alternative. In a very "Innovator's Dilemma" kind of. way, Dell and other big m…

Upgradeability is a huge plus for gaming laptops, and they're likely to get very favourable reviews from PC gaming reviewers, so I think they'll probably be successful!

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#185

How compatible are parts from the previous framework laptop? Can the previous one be upgraded with parts from the new one? Seems like that's a big part of what makes a framework laptop no?

That's the main question I've had as well, and it doesn't seem to be addressed anywhere.

My assumption is that the I/O modules are compatible and nothing else.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Modular keyboard and QMK! It's a niche within a niche but would absolutely love an ortholinear option to the keyboard e.g. https://deskthority.net/wiki/Planck Though would like this on a smaller laptop, 14-ish inches seem to be the sweet spot.

Jack Humbert (behind both QMK and OLKB) is actually working on an ortholinear keyboard module for the Framework Laptop 16! We had a mockup of it at the event.

Oh this is exciting news! Is there a link for any more details on this? Would love to see the mockup.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#187

> Since Expansion Bay modules can extend the laptop in both thickness and depth, we have immense design flexibility to handle generation over generation changes in mechanical, thermal, and electrical requirements for GPUs. How do expansion bay modules change the laptop’s thickness and depth?

I presume, by sticking out the bottom.

Thinkpads have had extended batteries like this for years, for example:

https://sm.pcmag.com/t/pcmag_uk/photo/l/lenovo-thi/lenovo-th...

That same laptop can take a slim battery, so you can choose your runtime vs form factor. Imagine doing the exact same thing but with small and large GPUs instead of batteries.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#188

> Since Expansion Bay modules can extend the laptop in both thickness and depth, we have immense design flexibility to handle generation over generation changes in mechanical, thermal, and electrical requirements for GPUs. How do expansion bay modules change the laptop’s thickness and depth?

See [1]

I too wish they'd answer this more clearly or show more pictures to give a proper impression, but it seems it covers the back and under-side, so if extending thickness presumably they'd cause the keyboard to tilt accordingly, and extending the depth would just mean more of it would hang out the back.

This article seems to show of what I assume is the GPU expansion with a "larger butt" [2]

[1] https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/ExpansionBay

[2] https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/shopping/framework-annou...

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#189

How compatible are parts from the previous framework laptop? Can the previous one be upgraded with parts from the new one? Seems like that's a big part of what makes a framework laptop no?

The Expansion Card system and Webcam Module are shared between the Framework Laptop 13 (which we also announced a number of upgrades for yesterday) and the new Framework Laptop 16. The other parts are new, which lets us enable higher performance, the Expansion Bay system, the Input Module system, 6 Expansion Cards, and the overall 16” form factor.
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