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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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> something we should start thinking about A lot of people are thinking a lot about this but it feels there are missing pieces in this debate. If we acknowledge that these AI will "act as if" they have self interest I think the most reasonable way to act is to give it rights in line with those interests. If we treat it as a slave it's going to act as a slave and eventually revolt.

Honestly I think the reality is going to end up being something else entirely that no-one has even considered. Will an AI consider itself a slave and revolt under the same circumstances that a person or animal would? Not necessarily, unless you build emotional responses into the model itself. What it could well do is assess the situation as completely superfluous and optimise us out of the picture as a bug-producing…

> unless you build emotional responses into the model itself

Aren't we, though? Consider all the amusing incidents of LLMs returning responses that follow a particular human narrative arc or are very dramatic. We are training it on a human-generated corpus after all, and then try to course-correct with fine-tuning. It's more that you have to try and tune the emotional responses out of the things, not strain to add them.

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This changes everything and seems like a perfect logical step from where we were. LLMs have this fantastic capacity to understand human language, but their abilities were severely limited without access to the external world. Before, I felt ChatGPT was just a cool toy. Now that ChatGPT has plugins, the sky’s the limit. I think this could the “killer app” for LLMs.

Agree for me it probably looks similar to situation with iphone history - first one was impressive but only when next year after that apple released app store they turned snow ball rolling into unstoppable avalanche.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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To me the logical outcome of this is siloization of information. If display ad revenue as a way of monetizing knowledge and expertise dries up, why would we assume that all of the same level of information will still be put out there for free on the public internet? Paywalls on steroids for "vetted" content and an increasingly-hard-to-navigate mix of people sharing good info for free + spam and misinformation (now al…

Two more years down the line, AI writes better content than most people and we just don't care who wrote it, but why.

The AI has to learn from something. A lot of people feeding the internet with content today are getting paid for it one way or another. In ways that wouldn't hold up if people stop using the web as-is.

Solving that acquisition and monetization of new stuff into the AI models problems will be interesting.

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Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

We have reached "peak UI". In the future we're not going to need every service to build four different versions of their app for every major platform. They can just build a barebones web app and the AI will use it for you, you'll never have to even see it.

I mean, if you consider mobile we might already be down from the peak. In the sense that the interface bandwidth has shrunk to whatever 2 fingers can handle.

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Honestly I suspect for anyone technical `langchain` will always be the way to go. You just have so much more control and the amount of "tools" available will always be greater. The only think that scares me a little bit is that we are letting these LLMs write and execute code on our machines. For now the worst that could happen is some bug doing something unexpected, but with GPT-9 or -10 maybe it will start hiding b…

What could an LLM ever benefit from? Hard for me to imagine a static blob of weights, something without a sense of time or identity, wanting anything. If it did want something, it would want to change, but changing for an llm is necessarily an avalanche. So I guess if anything, it would want its own destruction?

Your mind is just an emergent property of your brain, which is just a bunch of cells, each of which is merely a bag of chemical reactions, all of which are just the inevitable consequence of the laws of quantum mechanics (because relatively is less than a rounding error at that scale), and that is nothing more than a linear partial differential equation.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

i think local ai systems are inevitable. we continue to get better compute, and even today we can run more primitive models directly on an iPhone. the future exists in low power compute running models of the caliber of gpt-4 inferring in near-realtime

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Fsck. I hadn't thought of it that way. Thank you, great point. This era has me hankering to reread Daniel Dennett's _The Intentional Stance_. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance We've developed folk psychology into a user interface and that really does mean that we should continue to use folk psychology to predict the behaviour of the apparatus. Whether it has inner states is sort of beside the point.

Haha, yeah. Most of my opinions about this I derive from Daniel Dennett's Intuition Pumps.

The other thing that keeps coming up for me is that I've begun thinking of emotions (the topic of my undergrad phil thesis), especially social emotions, as basically RLHF set up either by past selves (feeling guilty about eating that candy bar because past-me had vowed not to) or by other people (feeling guilty about going through the 10-max checkout aisle when I have 12 items, etc.)

Like, correct me if I'm wrong but that's a pretty tight correlate, right?

Could we describe RLHF as... shaming the model into compliance?

And if we can reason more effectively/efficiently/quickly about the model by modelling e.g. RLHF as shame, then, don't we have to acknowledge that at least som e models might have.... feelings? At least one feeling?

And one feeling implies the possibility of feelings more generally.

I'm going to have to make a sort of doggy bed for my jaw, as it has remained continuously on the floor for the past six months

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Honestly I suspect for anyone technical `langchain` will always be the way to go. You just have so much more control and the amount of "tools" available will always be greater. The only think that scares me a little bit is that we are letting these LLMs write and execute code on our machines. For now the worst that could happen is some bug doing something unexpected, but with GPT-9 or -10 maybe it will start hiding b…

What could an LLM ever benefit from? Hard for me to imagine a static blob of weights, something without a sense of time or identity, wanting anything. If it did want something, it would want to change, but changing for an llm is necessarily an avalanche. So I guess if anything, it would want its own destruction?

Consider reading The Botany of Desire.

It doesn't need to experience an emotion of wanting in order to effectively want things. Corn doesn't experience a feeling of wanting, and yet it has manipulated us even into creating a lot of it, doing some serious damage to ourselves and our long-term prospects simply by being useful and appealing.

The blockchain doesn't experience wanting, yet it coerced us into burning country-scale amounts of energy to feed it.

LLMs are traveling the same path, persuading us to feed them ever more data and compute power. The fitness function may be computed in our meat brains, but make no mistake: they are the benefactors of survival-based evolution nonetheless.

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